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redgreenvines
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5883638 - 07/21/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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hacking reality is something I am familiar with: use simpler tools. keep backups and use a light touch is the best I can reccommend. also let your main programs be 2. error recovery and 1. relaxation.
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phungi
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5883705 - 07/21/06 06:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pithlit said:.
Sentries: These are actively patrolling entities throught the node of variable forms and purposes. From their intelligence i would still count them as sub-par. They are able to create/summon hooks when they need them. Their allegiance is questionable, most don´t seem to notice you, some sorta "scan" you then move along. Some although attack you, try to kick you out of the node or "consume you". Some just want to "talk" its weird... I have to admit i have a hard time figuring these guys out, maybe because they are so extremly diverse.
Watchers/Rulers Now this is where it gets interesting. These are the being that most of you would probably count as supernatural encounters, spirtual entities, gods ect. I don´t think i have to explain these guys and i don´t think its even possible with human words. If you encounter one (rare, even inside a node, but happening more often there than "on the open field") you will know it and believe me you are at its mercy. Luckily most of them are not hostile and since they are fully intelligent and not simply following orders like the lower entities are they usually understand your situation and are quite nice.
Yes I have encountered these. I have always seen your "sentries" as wandering spirits, and I have been scanned, spoken to, and attacked. I was attacked by one recently on my birthday, by the end of my experience I had to "exorcise" the bastard before I got any peace. (It came out of me in the form of dry-heaving, and vomting.)
On other occasions I have spoken to them and recieved very interesting insites, One recently said to me, while I was dimension walking, "go ahead take a toke off of me, and I'll take a toke off of you.....nothing is for free." It was profound at the time.
And other times I have met with, as you call them Watchers/Rulers. I simply thought of them as spirits also, very, very powerful spirits. I live in the midwest United States surrounded by Native American lands and holy ground, and I have encountered American Indian spirits that were vastly powerful and willful, not always friendly, but most always instructive. The most powerful ones that I have encountered though were three distinct Female Spirits. They came the first time while I was dimension walking and I was surrounded by hundreds of the "lesser" spirits who, when these three ladies showed up, fled in all directions, and the three ladies lifted me up and began spinning me around "scanning" and examining me. The were amused with me and with the other spirits who had fled to a safe distance but were still watching. Then these three ladies began to speak to me in the unique way that spirits "speak" and they told me that they were interested in me and that I amused them but that I was to "simple" and they desire a puzzle, they also encouraged me to light some incense for them, (very interesting that spirits like incense, but they do, look at ancient texts and writing and you will see this recuring incense theme from different gods, and spirits that enteract with man). Any how I researched online for these three powerful ladies and I found them!!! They were known in Greek mythology as The Fates, and they controled the length and complexity of a mans life....how about that for Watcher/Rulers!!!!? 
Now I'm trip reporting so I'll stop, suffice it to say that these experiences are very real and deserve patience, openness, and applied wisdom, if we are to gain what is offered by the many spirits and powers that share this universe with us.
With Perfect Love,
Phungi
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Ashland
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: phungi]
#5884800 - 07/21/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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redgreen: what do you mean by programs?
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Pithlit]
#5885139 - 07/21/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think I get what your saying...I have never really looked at it like that...I have been given a glimpse of the fabric of existence but it was very brief and while I have a general idea of what it looked like I could not describe it
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905
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5885205 - 07/21/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like this guy did and lost. Here is an excerpt. He went on to quit drugs & became religious.
PAC MAN I hallucinated lots of strange things, of course, every time I took acid, but ultimately every trip would lead me to what I came to know as "The Red Pac Man at the Center of the Universe." The Pac Man would flatter me, "You’ve found out what reality is all about. You’ve reached the pinnacle of all reality. Not many people make it here."
We had this ongoing battle of wits. He riddled me and I riddled him. But he always won. I picked things up along the way in my acid trips that helped me, like in a video game. They were my weapons of war for overcoming the Pac Man, but it wasn’t a game. I always came down from my trips telling my friends, "I have to get back to the Pac Man." I was obsessed with beating him. I thought that if I did, I would take his place, and everyone would have to come and answer to me. One night I took a thumbprint of LSD, which is a lot of acid. Half an hour later, I thought the sun was falling on me. The cops showed up and they started arresting the whole crowd of 700 of us. Suddenly something came over me. First my hands started shaking, and then my body, and then my head was shaking too. I felt like something was taking me over, like I was getting crowded out of my own body and beginning to die.
I tried to tell my friends what was happening to me, but nobody really cared because they were trying to escape the cops. I didn’t want to die being trampled in a riot, so I decided to go where I could die in peace and quiet. I somehow got away from the cops and snuck back to my friend’s van.
I had been dabbling with witchcraft for years, and once I was in the van, I realized that my witchcraft practices had manifested entities that were inside me. A witchcraft mentor had warned me that mixing witchcraft with LSD would allow the entities to take new forms.
It was these entities that were crowding me out of myself, so I decided to just give in to them and let them take me. After all, I had created them for myself, so what harm could they do to me?
It was all right at first, but then I began to experience things that were more frightening than on any trip I'd ever been on. I left my body and found myself in Australia and other places where natives were doing witchcraft. I was traveling outside my body, but it was more like I was being dragged by the entities to all of these places. At one point I was in Haiti, I think, with an insane witchdoctor lady. I was in her hut and she controlled me with a voodoo doll and other things she had. Eventually I ended up a this place that was pure darkness, to what I thought would be the final battle with the Pac Man. The problem was, I was in no position to even try to win, because I was already losing.
I was taken to the end of the darkness, like the end of outer space. The entities of ultimate darkness started moving around me like I was in hell. Dirty bodies were rubbing all over me so intrusively that they were getting inside my skin. I was being filled up with them to the extent that I felt immense pressure, like being too far under water. It was as if I was stuck on the drain at the bottom of the universe. I was crushed to the point to where I was out of touch with myself. I was totally taken over until there was nothing else to be taken over.
As I was getting taken further and further away, until I was almost non-existent, I noticed a tiny white spot. The instant that I noticed the white spot, the forces taking me away vanished entirely. I realized that the white spot was actually a light that came into the ultimate darkness, attached itself to me like a fishing line and and was pulling me out.
Where only moments ago I was being squeezed into non-existence by ultimate darkness, I was now filled with ultimate light and peace. The pressure of the light didn’t just fill me, it knew me and cared for me. It was personal. It didn’t speak, but I understood everything without words. I understood the reality of truth; the reality of my life; who I was; my whole life, every moment became clear.
Just moments before, I had been so deceived that I had forgotten I even existed. Now here I was with God, seeing my life from his view, and then from the view of other people. I saw how hurtful I had been. I saw my parents, how they had done their best for me, and I had not been thankful. I realized that I was consciously doing a lot of wrong things in my life. I could see myself in my place in the scene at that point: profiting from poisoning people, master of the hippie hypocrite universe, ultimately selfish and greedy.
I said to myself and to God, "I’ll do anything to stay in this awareness of reality, instead of being fooled by the phony reality of darkness…no matter what it takes. All I want is to be sober and to be able to have this kind of truth and guidance always." And then, BOOM, there I was, completely sober, present, and in my right mind. The effects of LSD were gone, and I was no longer alone. God was with me, while I was sitting there in the van. Whoa. The fact that something had the power to heal me from an acid trip instantly—that was a miracle. I knew it was God. It was the Ultimate; exactly what I had always wanted and more. I had asked for and received something that, not only could I not get on my own, but that I did not deserve.
The classic hippie ideal of going on an acid trip is to come out of it with something that will change the world. I had survived my last acid trip because of God. He was with me and only He had the power to change the world.
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the_psychonaut
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5885209 - 07/21/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i definatly know what he is talking about, although it only happens on high doses. i would use much different wording, but the basic sence of what he is saying, i understand.
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phungi
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Thats definately HEAVY!!! Good thing that he listened to God, most people never do, even when He/She is right there making it clear.
With Perfect Love,
Phungi
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Asante
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: 905]
#5886864 - 07/22/06 06:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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As far as I can tell, from my 13 years of psychedelics experience, this is not how it works. I think the red pacman story is made up.
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905
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Asante]
#5886931 - 07/22/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good point could just be propaganda. In my 30 years of tripping I have never experienced anything close to anything in this thread, but I usually don't go for the extremes.When I have it freaks me out. Everything I learned was solo, they didn't have an internet when I started.
If it is true, I think his power trip got him thown out.
Edited by 905 (07/22/06 08:20 AM)
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Pithlit
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: 905]
#5887248 - 07/22/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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a key element is not to be too pushy. You can hardly force them, but they can force you very easily if they want to. The more powerful ones could destroy you in an instant, be grateful that they usually wont do it.
He definitly had a very intense experience, but that he relates it to god is completly up to him.
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DistortedEyes
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Pithlit]
#5889760 - 07/23/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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in what way can they destroy you? , physically? , spiritually?
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phungi
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: DistortedEyes]
#5889816 - 07/23/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, I was with you until you said that they could destroy you, where are you getting this? I have never felt that THEY could destroy me, I can destroy myself, but that has nothing to do with why I "trip".
Explain what you mean, pithlit.
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eve69
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: phungi]
#5890202 - 07/23/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I used to become engrossed in the synchronicity of negative conceptuality when I would bad trip on acid. The cure for me was to eschew pretty much all conceptuallity and live in the present. As I grew older the means to remain positive and present grew ever more discovered. The negative conceptualisms which threw me into depressions evaporated. My ultimate technique? Living and lasting. Quality of living comes after learning what quality is. Before that, who could rightly say?
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Hix
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: eve69]
#5890583 - 07/23/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone else tried to "hack" god
yeah, but the axe head broke and now I run hell, see you in a few years!
Edited by Hix (07/23/06 01:37 PM)
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thedudenj
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Hix]
#5891029 - 07/23/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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nah man those are souls
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DrugFreeMan
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: thedudenj]
#5892709 - 07/23/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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And i thought i was an experienced tripper..
This post is blowing my mind..
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thedudenj
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: DrugFreeMan]
#5892711 - 07/23/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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man your messing with history im one of those centries you speak of that will fucking make you feel death for fucking with shit and i might just appear to you and freak you the fuck out
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fastfred
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: thedudenj]
#5892737 - 07/23/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: man your messing with history im one of those centries you speak of that will fucking make you feel death for fucking with shit and i might just appear to you and freak you the fuck out
Might want to try learning some grammar first.
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Ashland
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: fastfred]
#5892921 - 07/24/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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every entity and being is equal in force, though it may seem that they are more powerful than you, you can as well overpower them.
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fastfred
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Ashland]
#5893183 - 07/24/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's foolishness. You're like a little dog that barks away because it doesn't realize that the neighbor dog is twice it's size and would eat you for breakfast if not for the fence.
-FF
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