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Pithlit
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Has anyone else tried to "hack" god
#5876504 - 07/19/06 04:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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this has happened to me for quite a while:
While tripping in the higher levels with encounters of higher being i get often the impression that the trip (visuals and all) is actually a very advanced interface of some sorts. Capable of processing vast amounts of informations at the same time it is controlled not like our computers with a keyboard and such, but by existence itself. You´r whole being makes up the control matrix and every physical action you take is counted as input on that interface. Thinking does´t seem to act as input, though, it seems that its only the physical body that is scanned for that. So you can acess this interface with your body, but how? Look out in your trip for "nodes", zones of high activety, they can be in midair, on surfaces or inside stuff. try to get a good 3D view if possible, the clearer the node (colorful, clearly distinguished from its surroundings) the better is your chance for success. Quite a few nodes are moving so its better to search one that remains in place because its easier to operate with stationary ones. Sometimes you have to search quite a bit for them, usually they are in higher conentrations near water or lots of biomatter, but can aswell be found in/on inanimate objects.
Now comes the tricky part: Acessing the node. First you have to get a feel for the thing, focus it with your eyes from about 0,5m away try to keep that distance. Stay completly still and focus your whole mind on it. Wait till it reacts, after some time it will begin to interface with you, every node is different, for beginners better choose one that reacts slowly to your input. When you feel that you have attached mentally to the node, start moving (for beginners i reccomend only the use of the hands), this different gestures, touch stuff near the node, say words and always look how it reacts. try to open the node more, but don´t pry it open slowly extend yozur mind into it.
What you´ll see is completly up to you, its an imaginary space where your mind interprets the rawdata.
I can reccomend you to look out for hooks and sentries, those can really kick your ass if you don´t be careful/act aggressive. If you feel tired break the connection and don´t stay to long. i know its seems promising, but they will find you after some time and its better not to contest with them, you simply can´t win. At least i can´t.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: Pithlit]
#5876614 - 07/19/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey there pithlit, you been trippin HARD!!
Seriously though I think that I know what you are talking about, I would just probably use different terminology. I have called it dimention walking, and I have encountered these nodes that you are referencing, only I always concidered them to be mental constructs rather that supernatural encounters, usually for me the supernatural encounters that I have are always spirits with distinct personalities. I think what you are talking about is your mental playground. Which is very cool, especially if one can control it, even a little bit.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: phungi]
#5876693 - 07/19/06 05:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow you need to get your ass over to the spirituality and mystism forums.
there aren't too many higher processing fellows around there. i'd like to talk with you more on this, i'll pm you later.
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Pithlit
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Re: Has anyone else tried to "hack" god [Re: phungi]
#5880576 - 07/20/06 07:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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phungi said: Hey there pithlit, you been trippin HARD!!
Seriously though I think that I know what you are talking about, I would just probably use different terminology. I have called it dimention walking, and I have encountered these nodes that you are referencing, only I always concidered them to be mental constructs rather that supernatural encounters, usually for me the supernatural encounters that I have are always spirits with distinct personalities. I think what you are talking about is your mental playground. Which is very cool, especially if one can control it, even a little bit.
With Perfect Love,
Phungi
Phungi, i don´t see these nodes as supernatural beings but more as accessable entities in the universal superstructure. I think dimension walking hits the point quite well. Its sort of a matrixesque experience. These are the portals that can lead you onto the other side of the looking glass. Interestingly they can often consensual hallucinations if you happen to trip in a group. Multiple people seeing the same thing. Sadly i wasn´t able to access them when with other persons so there aren´t any shared experiences on that matter, yet.
And i wouldn´t call it so much as control. Its like staking a boat across a fast flowing river. The flood of information processed is so vast that you can barely grasp it and easily loose yourself in the streaming if you can´t mentally focus yourself. The only control i can archieve is sometimes ramming my "metaphysical" stake in the ground nudging myself in another direction and watching where it drifts me. 95% of the work is keeping your mind coherent and focused during the thing 5% is actually interacting with the enviroment. And even that raises enough counter actions to knock you down on your butt.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5881253 - 07/20/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn you are way out there dude. thats awesome.
keep it real
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thedudenj
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what are u guys taking to get this ?
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5881438 - 07/20/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What you are calling "nodes" is what I refer to as places of power. Interesting analogy though...
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5881482 - 07/20/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is fascinating. I am going to make sure that I try this in depth next time I eat some fungus. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: MorphMan]
#5881527 - 07/20/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know it sounds a bit far-fetched, but I'm pretty down with your theory.
My last trip, my two friends and I were meditating in my bedroom, and I began to "interface" with something much like what you described as a node. I had not taken a heavy dose, only about 2g, and I had suddenly begun to see a ridiculous amount of fractalling, tunneling, and color sprays in my field of vision - my eyes were open in the dark the entire time.
It felt that I was able to control some sort of energy between my hands, kind of like Chi I guess, and it started to visualize. I seemed to be molding some growing orb of energy between my hands - until I saw this giant face looking very very alien and unhuman, and the first thought that came to my mind was that it was the devil. I got up abruptly, and quit the session; my friends noticing that as I got startled and moved there was a brief glow of energy around me (though I didn't notice this). I think maybe what you're talking about as "hooks" and "sentries" may be what I saw at the end of my experience.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5881535 - 07/20/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"I can reccomend you to look out for hooks and sentries, those can really kick your ass if you don´t be careful/act aggressive"
Your personal power will define your interaction with the spirit beings. The inorganics can be hostile if you fight their intentions, its also important to note that they have vast knowledge and can show you many things. Use the utmost caution, they want your energy and will try and trick you into surrendering it. Such relationships are vastly complex and cannot be defined by polarities such as good and evil. Different types of energy, different means of existence.
Slower more electrical stretched out alien consciousness strange dark caverns of formless light beings, blobs of slimy mucus like energy. Vastly interconnected oneness. All minds are the same all beings have purpose.
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Pithlit
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5881778 - 07/20/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I´ll try to explain my terminology a bit more so hopefully it gets more understandable. I have chosen these terms, because i usually use a matrix like computer enviroment if i am free to dertermine the framework i want to use in the node. Some of them seem to have a "hardcoded" enviroment, though, wich you have to use if you want to interface with them. These are usually the most intersting and diverse places.
The entities i refer to as hooks... Ok, better explain entity first. I use this term not to define another "intelligent/supernatural/ect" being, but only a complete unit that is working indepent in a node. An entity has distinct properties, a set of constants to say so. An entity can be intelligent or not, it can be active or reactive depending on the type.
So back to the hooks. The most simply type of adversaries/non neutral to you beings you can encounter. They themselves are reactive entities, they don´t actively search out for you/others. They often present themselves as lures, promises of information or power. As all entities they are addressed by concentrating on them as your thoughtstream is your finest tool inside a node. You can use your hands and body to navigate but its your thoughts that represent your manipulating apendages in this realm (thus you have to protect them well if you don´t want to get incapacitated quickly).
Hooks come in many disguises have a mind-probe like quality. Once you stepped into them "metphorically" they sorta attach themselves to you conciousness acting in different ways: -Marker: They funtion as some sort of beacon wich calls the other entities of the node towards your position. (i see them as some form of parasitic beings) when your infestitation with hooks increases you will notice a distinct increase in encounters with other entites. -Leecher: They suck some sort of sustenance out of you, you will begin to feel tired, sleepy, the ability to concentrate is impaired. -Scrambler: The nasty buggers interfere with your ability to communicate with the node. They´ll try to set loops in your thoughts, spill in false informations and sensoric input often to lure you deeper into the thing, most likely into a trap. Your commands to the node will most likely be less precise, navigating gets a sluggish feeling to it.
I see hooks as non-intelligent automated subroutines, little small helper programs that perform distinct tasks. With concentration i am able to create some myself, although i mostly use them as helpers not for offensive stuff like most of the ones you will stumble upon in a node. I believe there are a lot of other "hooks" inside a node wich are not there to stop intuders but more for maintenance data processing and storage, all the stuff that goes on there, but they are aswell disguesed and i don´t know the commands to activate them. Sometimes you will find one by luck, üprobably one that is damaged or inoperable. I once found one and accessng it was one of the most revealing experiences i had. I have sorta "addopted" the lil fella he´s nice.
Sentries: These are actively patrolling entities throught the node of variable forms and purposes. From their intelligence i would still count them as sub-par. They are able to create/summon hooks when they need them. Their allegiance is questionable, most don´t seem to notice you, some sorta "scan" you then move along. Some although attack you, try to kick you out of the node or "consume you". Some just want to "talk" its weird... I have to admit i have a hard time figuring these guys out, maybe because they are so extremly diverse.
Watchers/Rulers Now this is where it gets interesting. These are the being that most of you would probably count as supernatural encounters, spirtual entities, gods ect. I don´t think i have to explain these guys and i don´t think its even possible with human words. If you encounter one (rare, even inside a node, but happening more often there than "on the open field") you will know it and believe me you are at its mercy. Luckily most of them are not hostile and since they are fully intelligent and not simply following orders like the lower entities are they usually understand your situation and are quite nice.
@Equilibrium:
I find it very interesting that you mention the mucus like energy. Had a very same experience during a n2o/mushroom combo. I used the term Aura energy to describe them. It was a very interesting and enlighting form of existence and a whole new "body" experience being an amorphous blob of energy where form is limitless (well almost, the only property was that all parts of your "field" had to stay connected at all times). You could stretch, envelop, build layers, even merge with others, still knowing exatcly wich parts where yours and wich were the others but being one completly new thing at the same time. existance in that realm seemed very easy to me. During the short ride on nitrous that i spend there i was born as one of them, but yet greeted since the knew i was not one of them but from another world and just paying a visit. Then i was put in their "kindergarten" to learn how to act with my new body  I spend a few months subjective time in that world i would say and was very sad when i had to leave my newly found family 
Mind blowing, absolutly mind blowing.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5881786 - 07/20/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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My god comes in a tri-fold bag, you can't hack him, you can shoot him though. Seriously though, what the fuck are you talking about? You think people in the 60's saw computers? No, your thoughts are manifesting a computer, just like someone that is blind can't see light, someone that never saw a computer can't see a computer. Next time try to log on the shroomery and post on the forum. Try to figure out were the ethernet cable goes before you log into the matrix though. Just my opinion.
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Pithlit
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: twiggedoubt]
#5881802 - 07/20/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course i know that this is only an interpretation of my mind. It´s only a metaphor but it´s one i can work with and one i know about. I still believe that there are similarities between my experiences and those of otehrs, although they use other metaphors to process the information. Thus i think that my info can be beneficial in some way for others. If you know what awaits you its easier to acceppt.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Pithlit]
#5881831 - 07/20/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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pthlit, you're like my new favorite member...
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: truekimbo2]
#5881916 - 07/20/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very intriuging... How do you go about finding and locating nodes? I'm assuming some sort of meditative process.. mind sharing?
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Ashland]
#5882319 - 07/20/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, really intresting topic.
Some although attack you, try to kick you out of the node or "consume you".
Can you please elaborate on the bolded part? Thanks!~
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Ashland]
#5882330 - 07/20/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: microsporum]
#5882336 - 07/20/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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cge0 said: Wow, really intresting topic.
Some although attack you, try to kick you out of the node or "consume you".
Can you please elaborate on the bolded part? Thanks!~
They are after your energy, essence, soul, whatever. The you that is you when you are not inside your body.
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5882509 - 07/20/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, well I guess if you put it like that it could be kind of fun. Its kind of like being a kid again, being able to create things with your mind, and watching it manifest itself right in front of you. I did that with memory, I would be able to look at something, shut my eyes and still see it for a good minute while I was tripping. I could see it, like it was burned into my mind and I could remeber everything from it, it was really wierd. I haven't tripped in ages though, but I would like to do some experiments next time I drop acid, with a sitter (something I never had before while tripping) to be an outside observer of my observations. As I always wondered if I was just so fucked up that I was making mistakes.
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Pithlit
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Re: Has anyone else tried to [Re: Ashland]
#5883278 - 07/20/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ashland said: Very intriuging... How do you go about finding and locating nodes? I'm assuming some sort of meditative process.. mind sharing?
Finding and locting nodes in three easy steps, by pithlit :p:P:p
Well actually its not that hard as one might think, although it requires some effort. I can give you the instructions i use and wich i have given to a few friend wich were all able to find them after some time with great realiance.
Step 1  The general direction. Usually you don´t get especially lucky just finding a node right besides you when you trip. So the first thing you have to do is find nearby ones. This can be quite easily done using the following method: Standing straight up, eyes paralel to the ground. Now focus your whole attention into your body and close your eyes. You hallucinations should be a bit weaker than normally with closed eyes. Now slowly turn 360° while trying to keep your head as fixed as possible (not like looking in one direction, but in relation to your body. Try not to concentrate too much on what you see, but more on the overall appearance of your surroundings. Look out for "distortions" in the wavering mass you see.
With closed eyes you can´t see the nodes directly, but rather an area effect they produce. They are kinda like black holes, you´ll see a distinct distortion of your vision in an area around them. This distortion area has about 1 feet in diameter and can be seen up to 30m apart from the node (through straight air). Non-living things (like mountains, buildings ect) seem to block out this effect, while living things like trees ect even seem to enhance the effect. Its because of this why i reccomend trying to find them in a wood, its much easier to cach them there.
If you aren´t lucky at first (after doing 3-4 full turns) just walk 50m or so and try again.
Step 2 Finding the node Now that you have the general direction start walking towards it (probably stopping after 10m otr so to reassure the direction incase the thing moves). This should be done with open eyes as all further manouvers (so that you wont trip ^^; and stuff) With open eyes you can see a node from about 3-4m apart. The usual one has a diameter of 8-12cm in the inactive/closed state. From far they usually look like a glowing piece of ember, usually brighter than the surroundings, emmiting no light and leaving a small trail. Even stationary nodes move in a small area (20x20x20cm or so) Colors and appearance can be absolutly diverse, everyone is unique. Circle around the node and try to get a good 3D view of the thing to make sure it is one you can try the closed eye method aswell.
Step 3 Feeling out the node This is to get a first impression as how "potent" your node is (personally i refer to this as its bandwidth :P). Get as close as possible to the node so that you just reach it with your streched arm. Try not fo focus on the node with your eyes or mind as not to already interface it (some of those buggers are awefully eager to connect) Now hold your hand in the node and wait for feelings in your hand , especially in your fingertips and on the back of your hand. After 10 seconds or so you should feel a tingle there, maybe even a shudder running up your arm. The stronger these feelings are the more cautious you should be in your approach, as the more powerful the node and the experience will be. If the feeling is not comfortable to you you shouldn´t try to interface with it.
Well, there you are, your won personal node for that night
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