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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: GabbaDj]
    #5888096 - 07/22/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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GabbaDj said:
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Rahie said:
I know cops dont use AK's




What about state police? Or the feds?

Naaah, I dont think AK's were used but for sure guns were.. Any gun can kill.

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SWAT and other special ops can and do use modified AR-15s. I have never seen or heard of U.S. forces of any variety issuing AK-47s. Both guns are fucking amazing pieces of machinery, although I am more partial to the venerable 'ol AK-47, but I digress.

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In the midst of a raid anyone without decent knowledge of assault rifles could easily call any of them "A big goddamned AK pointed right at my face".


Edited by debianlinux (07/22/06 05:13 PM)


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: debianlinux]
    #5888356 - 07/22/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Public defenders are usually worthless. He must find and retain his own council. I hope he kept his mouth shut when they questioned him.

1.The less you say, the more an attorney has to work with. You open your mouth, and you tie your attorney's hands behind their back.

Most likely, UNLESS THEY HAD THE GUNS IN THE HOTEL WITH THEM, OR HAD MORE THAN A COUPLE OF OUNCES OF DRUGS, he will get released after his arraignment to awate more formal proceedings. This greatly depends on his past record and the amount of time it has been since his last conviction.

2. Spend several ENTIRE DAYS researching attorneys in your area. Ask them if they have specific experience in this type of defense.

3. Get it, and everything else, including future charges and the extent for which the retainer will get you, in writing before you pay a retainer fee.

4. Check with the BBB and your local BAR association for complaints against the attorney you select.

5. Meet with the attorney in person and plan a strategy. He needs to know what happened from your point of view, from the other people in the room's POV, etc. The proceedures that the police follow matter greatly. That is, if you attorney is good, is getting paid enough, and cares(for whatever reasons, ego being one of them often.)

6. You want a proven, connected, successful, arrogant peacock of an attorney with a staff of at least 3 people. One of which is a professional private investigator. This means money, lots of money.


This is why I suggest to all students here:
Research and retain an attorney BEFORE you do anything illegal. That way. You have a team behind you, ready for action should anything bad go down.

Immagine having YOUR private investigator show up when you're getting raided. Observing the cops, writing shit down, perhaps taking pics. You can really turn the tide in your favor. Someone's word that wasn't involved will hold a greater value to a judge or jury than your own.

I wish him good luck and will send positive thoughts your guys' way. I'll also send some confusing thoughts towards the cops. Hopefully, they'll fuck up and everyone can not go to jail.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: CherryBom]
    #5888407 - 07/22/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Bummer :-(

Just saw this thread, and after finally meeting yoschie, must say this news is pretty shitty...

Hopefully this will all turn out in the best possible way, and we'll be able to hear yoschie laugh, telling us about the time he almost went to federal prison...

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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: absolute zero]
    #5888540 - 07/22/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

fuck.. if only this thing happened two years from now.. I'm studying for my LSAT

I'm not sure if this guy is licensed for PA, but if you're willing to look around Baltimore (not too far)... I had a reall BOMB ASS lawyer named WARREN ALPERSTEIN. The man was a miracle worker. All I know is I showed up for my court case with all my friends there supporting me... before the judge walked in... he took my arresting officer outside the courtroom for 1 minute.... i dunno what he said to him but they came right back in and bam... the cop dropped the charges and left the courtroom.

I was facing 5 years.... and he only charged me $1,500.

I was locked up for two days before I got bailed out (central booking in baltimore city.. yikes)... from the rumors I thought I would be toast. It was actually kind of funny... being the only non-ghetto person in there. Was playing dominoes with some guys that were in there for murder (i was in for a bunch of E) and they were pretty friendly actually. Some 300lb guy grabbed me from behind and started screaming and ripping off my shoes demanding that I give them to him. I jumped on top of his back (only 130lb at the time) and wrapped my arms around his head knowing damn well I was about to get my ass beat. He flipped me over and slammed me to the ground and started laughing telling me that he was just joking and he thought it was funny that I even tried to defend myself. We ended up shaking hands as I left.

I dunno how long Yoschie's been in there, but hell... I hope he's ok. I think the horror stories from prison are a little overrated. If I can hang two days in the most dangerous city out there.. I think Yoschie will be ok.

The only really scary part is the first 12-16 hours where you're waiting in a tiny cell for the commisioner not knowing what to expect, then you get stripped nekkid and forced to take a shower thinking you're going to get raped... then they stick you in a jump suit and send you to an area that's not so bad... you sleep on the ground but at least you get dominoes and chess... the guards even taped the tyson-hollyfield rematch the night before and played it for us (exactly what you want to be showing to a bunch of prisoners in there for violent crimes... right?)

(crosses his fingers for yoschie)

If he's still in trouble by the time I get out of law school and pass the bar.. I'll file his appeal personally for free!


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: BrAiN]
    #5888906 - 07/22/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I talked to one of my friends that happens to be a retired state trooper that did undercover work also. Not sure what kind of undercover work, but I asked him some questions to try and help out with the situation. He said that drugs were almost certainly sold to a undercover at the festy. (which was mentioned before I know) He said that the person who sold it to the undercover will get the brunt of the charges. He also said to tell Yos to tell that he was just hitching a ride with these peeps. Letters are for sure a great idea in this case, and will help him out greatly. My friend told me it sounds like our friend Yos will be ok. He may face up 6 months to a year.
I know people don't like narcs, but my friend told me he should testify against who ever drugs these are. If they were not Yos drugs he shouldnt have to go down for it.
Hope this helps out.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Rahie]
    #5888968 - 07/22/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i don't even know yos but FUCK our god damned laws..i'm donating $10 to paypal now. i too was busted once being in the wrong place at the wrong time. luckily the charges were dropped because they didn't find my fingerprints on any of the stolen goods. i don't steal. best of luck to yos


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: SuperD]
    #5889561 - 07/23/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

> he should testify against who ever drugs these are.

And by admitting to knowing about them he faces conspiracy charges. That's stupid. If he knew about the drugs then he's guilty, flat out.

And if he DID know about the drugs then he IS guilty and should keep his mouth shut because he knew what he was getting into and should take the charges like a man.

Sounds like you want him to be a complete piece of shit and claim he didn't know about the drugs, but rat out all his buddies at the same time. That won't fly.

He's going to get time for this, I don't see any way out of it unless the cops fucked up somehow. It's not easy for a rat to do prison time. Those are the people that either spend their whole time in PC with the child molesters or get raped on a daily basis. OTOH prison is cake for anyone who didn't rat.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: fastfred]
    #5889623 - 07/23/06 02:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was saying what my friend said. I might have confused it when typing it out. Obviously he cant testify against them if he didn't know about the drugs. So he needs to choose what he has to do. Any word if he found a good lawyer yet?
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: fastfred]
    #5890674 - 07/23/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

fastfred said:

Sounds like you want him to be a complete piece of shit and claim he didn't know about the drugs, but rat out all his buddies at the same time. That won't fly.

FF




then it is brought to the attention whoever had the drugs should be responsible and take the blunt and not get his semi-innocent buddies iwhere he should be

Yos is a cool dude, I bet he was smart and didn't say anything, good luck to him


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Hix]
    #5892460 - 07/23/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow i cant believe how many people on this board condone ratting... guess its a good thing cuz now i know who to stay away from...


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: AliceDee]
    #5892595 - 07/23/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just saw this post, i dont actually post very often anymore, but i gotta say, yoschie really should have listened to yall. cause that party/deal on wheels was screaming; BUST ME!

I wouldnt have touched that party with a 10 foot pole. Hope hes ok in the end tho. :/


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Kada]
    #5892730 - 07/23/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

it's one thing to rat.. its another thing to be with a buddy that has drugs.. and both of you get busted and he won't take it like a man and admit the shit was his


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: BrAiN]
    #5892986 - 07/24/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

will all the information that has been released here in the forum reguarding this guy and his situation...isn't anyone the least bit worried that someone could put two and two together, and then start looking back at posts for incriminating evidence if there is any? any and all comments on here would not be good.

i mean dam we all know these forums get looked up and down, i know that i could put the puzzle together really easy sitting from MY CHAIR.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5893073 - 07/24/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
will all the information that has been released here in the forum reguarding this guy and his situation...isn't anyone the least bit worried that someone could put two and two together, and then start looking back at posts for incriminating evidence if there is any? any and all comments on here would not be good.

i mean dam we all know these forums get looked up and down, i know that i could put the puzzle together really easy sitting from MY CHAIR.




can't the mods mask his username across the board temporarily?


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: JackTackle]
    #5893194 - 07/24/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

err, nothing can really be done now, im sure the damage is done this has been up for a while now, im just surprized this has been allowed to go this far, and all the info that got reliezed from the very beginning.everything that hits the internet is basicly permently there, cann't be erazed thx to google and other 'hidden" programs


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5893933 - 07/24/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

My deepest sympathies go out to him. I feel terrible about all of this. May justice prevail.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: MorphMan]
    #5893945 - 07/24/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I just pulled a search on him, there really isn't anything incrimiating at all, just yos shooting the shit like usual.

which is what I expected anyways.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Gillette]
    #5893986 - 07/24/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what about in ODD...  all the talk about LSD...  in a few different threads....

well after searching myself, it appears his posts are gone.... :shrug:


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: BrAiN]
    #5894485 - 07/24/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
it's one thing to rat.. its another thing to be with a buddy that has drugs.. and both of you get busted and he won't take it like a man and admit the shit was his



I had someone do that shit to me, before. The guy buys some "opium" and we get pulled over on the way to my apt. He ditches the shit in my floorboard and didn't fess up to it.! :mad2:I of course didn't tell the cops that it was his, but I did say that it wasn't mine and that I had no idea of what it was. They were all like, "It's black tar heroin!" I was fucking PISSED!! I bonded myself and the guy's girlfriend out of jail, but I left him there. The "opium" ended up being an unknown non-narcotic substance and the charges got thrown out of court.

I still see that guy on occasion and I have forgiven him, but he's a scared pussy that I will never let into my car again.

Back on topic, is there any news about Yos? He have a lawyer yet?


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: BrAiN]
    #5894516 - 07/24/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
it's one thing to rat.. its another thing to be with a buddy that has drugs.. and both of you get busted and he won't take it like a man and admit the shit was his




That's the thing, the cops will bullshit people into thinking their buddy has ratted them out or hasn't admitted to their own wrongdoing. When dealing with these fuckers, the best thing to do is keep your mouth shut until the attorney is there and do what the attorney says.


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