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OfflineMitchnast
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: musicturkey]
    #5878651 - 07/19/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i hate to aggree with me too. :P
I read his last posts and this doesn't make sense. he was looking for a ride to the festival.
how on earth could he have gotten roped in with these guys if only a few days earlier he diddn't even have a ride?
any way his previous posts could be evidance that he diddn't inted this activity?

what sort of big dealer cant get a ride to an upcomming dealing collab?

also i noticed he was online yesterday.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5878666 - 07/19/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

very strange.


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OfflineMitchnast
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #5878673 - 07/19/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

he was looking for someone to share a tent too.

sounds like he found that person, and got fucked BIGTIME!


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5878683 - 07/19/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i wonder if that could help him in court?


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JaP: 30,000 lines of gay, cock, and fag can't be wrong
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: missargyle]
    #5878866 - 07/19/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Get the best lawyer there is. Do not skimp AT ALL. Debt is far better than prison. With priors, he could easily be sent up. See what comes down at arraignment and have the lawyer review everything. If it's beatable, go for it. If not, bail and run.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! *DELETED* [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #5878874 - 07/19/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5878954 - 07/19/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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RandalFlagg said:
This is serious shit.  Yos has prior drug convictions on his record.  He is going to have a tough time fighting this.  The only thing he could feasibly do is point fingers at the other guys in the room.  To be blunt....he might have to rat to get out of this.




By the looks of it he's going to be doing time whether he snitches or not. A rat is the lowest form on the totum pole. To his girlfriend: Please advise Yos to not roll over no matter how bad they pressure him. Their deal may look nice at the time (less years) but then nobody will want anything to do with him when he does get out. I'm also sure his time in prison will be hell if people find out he rolled over. Everybody in the game knows the rules, the risks, and the consequences. When you get popped, you do your time. They should have been smarter than getting rid of product at fests to random people. Sorry but this is the blunt truth of the matter.

With that being said I'm very sorry for him + his fam and will see what I can do about donating some $. He will be in my prayers. :heart:


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: missargyle]
    #5879046 - 07/19/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Damn, I'd like to be positive, but that isn't realistic in the least.

I hate to say it but he will do at least a dime of straight time. Federal charges mean no possibility of parole. With their case as good as it sounds he has no chance.

If they had a weaker case AND he ratted on each of his friends AND their dealer he would be lucky to get out of it with only a nickle.

They had a LOT of drugs, clear intent to distribute, and rock solid conspiracy counts on each of them. 200K would be chump change even if he had only half the charges against him. Usually with even half the charges and half the case they would at least want a family member to have to put up a home as collateral on 10% of the bail. His bail should be around 1 million, he's lucky in that respect.

IMO it would be a waste to spend very much on a lawyer. He should have a good one, but I would focus on sentencing. The courts aren't going to be impressed with any fancy lawyering effort against a case so open and shut. Pleading guilty and showing remorse for your crime are *both* factors that are actually calculated into sentencing.

What he really needs is to get bailed out. Then he can delay the trial for a year or two at least with a decent lawyer. He can enjoy a bit more freedom and decide if he wants to wait around and serve his prison sentence.

200K x 10% = 20K. That peanuts for what he's charged with. If he has any family that can come up with that and they really care about him they will put it up, and not care if he makes trial.

Obviously I'm not advising fleeing justice, but just hypothetically in the book I'm writing, containing a similar situation, I note that it's not that hard to get across the border. Despite what you might hear, neither the Mexican nor the Canadian border is hard to get across, especially coming from the US. My character has specific knowledge of the Canadian border though, so that's where he crosses.

Of course, the large bounty on my character causes many suspenseful situations and makes up the bulk of the book.


Anyway, I wish him the best of luck and will say a prayer for him.


-FF


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OfflineOrganic
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: missargyle]
    #5879051 - 07/19/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Bad news. I'll be real with you.

Yos needs to play the ignorant idiot, and hope he didn't have shit on his person when this happened. It may be a good idea to get rid of any incriminating evidence (pictures, POSTS, lighters with pot resin on the bottom, etc) if you want to pull off the "Wrong place, wrong time" case.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Organic]
    #5879058 - 07/19/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Remember, this will not be handled by the local Po-Dunks, these people have knowledge.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5879200 - 07/19/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Johnny Cochrine is dead.... he died of a heart attack a while back i belive.

im really strapped for cash right now if i get some extra i will definately donate.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: MrMolotov]
    #5879796 - 07/19/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is fucked up news.

I saw some Free Yos Sigs today, but I thought it was a joke.

I cant believe this happened. Those are some serious charges and I hope everything is cool, but it obviously isnt.

I've seen the same thing happen to my best friend, and I can tell you, its a gut-wrenching experience to see someone you love treated like that by the government, the very people who you're told will protect you. My best thoughts and deepest sympathies go out to Yos, and his family and friends.

Fuck Man...

PEACE.


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5879803 - 07/19/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone know a good lawyer?


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: missargyle]
    #5879820 - 07/19/06 11:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I will right a letter on Yoshies behalf, but the content of all the letters being sent is a big thing.
I'm sure nobody is dumb enouph to say they met Yoshie on the shroomery, but how does it look to the judge getting 200 letters from people who say that they met Yoshie online, and hung out with him, and he was a really upstanding guy. I just don't know if thats a great idea.
mabey his lawyer could give us some advice on the matter?


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5879988 - 07/20/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Damn All-Good clams more victims.. alot of shady shady shit went down at the fest.. that had to be the one.. i was there and saw alot of shadness go down.. Fuckin WV :frown:


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: psilotatsic]
    #5880085 - 07/20/06 01:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I heard that wakarusa was really bad also. We should come up with a list of states to avoid at all costs.
first on the list
1. new jersey


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Rahie]
    #5880180 - 07/20/06 02:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Avoid East of the rockies. Done.


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InvisibleTHE KRAT BARON
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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: Organic]
    #5880199 - 07/20/06 02:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Organic said:
Bad news. I'll be real with you.

Yos needs to play the ignorant idiot, and hope he didn't have shit on his person when this happened. It may be a good idea to get rid of any incriminating evidence (pictures, POSTS, lighters with pot resin on the bottom, etc) if you want to pull off the "Wrong place, wrong time" case.




If he's going to play the ignorant idiot he must accept his right to a trial by jury. Never waive that right. You have to play on the jurors emotions. Getting to a couple jurors on a more personal level is never a bad thing. It may sound unrealistic but in the scheme of things it's really not. Again, my prayers are with him and his. :sun:

He's going to need a top notch lawyer.


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: CherryBom]
    #5880295 - 07/20/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What? If you do what we are doing, and you get red eyed, then yur fucked.

What is it that we don't know? The Nazis hate us. We have apparently learned to live with it. It sucks when one of us falls.

But, isn't that the reality of what we are involved in?

Be careful!!!!

Long Live TM!!! Try to stay safe.... Please. Know everything you can and be paranoid as hell.... getting there.

But, enjoy the trip. L)L... Wow What a rock and a hard place.

ALL PIGS MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Yoschie is in jail. Help! [Re: CherryBom]
    #5880306 - 07/20/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ug,

Sorry to say, but, a junkie hitching post isn't a safe place for a shroomie to be at. Shroomies usuallly avoid places that lead to fatal arrests - like a crack friends party that gets all busted and leads to a raid on your next 50 to life sentence.

Keep yur dealings clean!!! Don't shit in yur backyard and enjoy the natural fruits. That will keep most of us out of trouble.

I am sorry about Yost but, the environ doesn't sound too smart.

Keep it clean... and cross posts from other drug cultures won't fuck with you. Stay lean... serene. This is a place about shrooms afterall.

I didn't hear a word about a hotel bust on a shroom dealer. A junkie motel is anybodies ball. Be careful!!!!


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