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Re: possible p. atl? [Re: I2ancid]
    #5878537 - 07/19/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Some people experience stomach upsets from digesting vegetables, which are high in fiber. The body is not able digest fiber and in excess fiber can cause stomach upsets. So if you want to define a toxic substance by "...a conflict between the body and an outside substance, then an inability to properly digest...", then fiber is mildly toxic.
Do you really want to argue definitions? Cause this will go 'round in circles. Futhermore, Mushrooms are made up of mostly water, fiber and carbohydrate, not protein.

Now, if you wish to consider Psilocybin toxic, then again, yes Panaeolus mushrooms are mildy toxic... including Psilocybes, Copelandia, Gymnopilus, any mushroom containing the active chemical psilocybin.
But most here make a distinction between psilocybin and other "toxic" chemicals, because the mix up that could easily occurr if we start referring to Galerina autumnalis as a toxic mushroom along with Psilocybe cubensis as a toxic mushroom. It might be mistook that toxic entails active, thus psilocybin.

I would not consider Panaeolus species toxic.


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Re: possible p. atl? [Re: CureCat]
    #5878795 - 07/19/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Gotcha CureCat, it is pointless. Anyways notice the bruising on my previous pictures, thats within 1 min after picking. They turn completely blue/green and eventually just flat out black. I'm not seeing any appreciable sense of that in his finds. Anyways, im sure he already knows its not atlantis now anyways so ill let this post drop.

Oh, and fuck me, that is infact no way a pan, dunno what I was thinking last night.


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Re: possible p. atl? [Re: spores]
    #5879331 - 07/19/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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DH said:
pieces of grass?

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Exactly what I was thinking. They are 100% Conocybe. P. atlantis has viscid caps and really looks nothing like that.


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Re: possible p. atl? [Re: Gumby]
    #5879494 - 07/19/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree that they are Conocybes but bluing/active conocybes are not unknown. It seems unlikely, but it is possible. It might be worth a closer examination.


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Re: possible p. atl? [Re: Gumby]
    #5879531 - 07/19/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Some parts of it don't look like grass when zoomed in on. The quality is not that great though.



I agree that it's unlikely to be one of the bluing conocybes... maybe it got there some other way... some kind of dye getting on it from something that it touched.. :shrug:
I don't know, it's hard to say much of anything without actually having them or talking directly with the poster that found the specimens.


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