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Went hunting today and had some decent finds
    #5873824 - 07/18/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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just take a look, tell me what you think of the photography. thanks.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: dreamingtree]
    #5873876 - 07/18/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Nice photos!

I see some Amanitas in the mix, some possible Russula or Lactarius, some possible Hygrocybe and or Entoloma, and a possible Pluteus.

Cool finds and pics.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: eris]
    #5873970 - 07/18/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Your amanita photos are great. You got good shots of the base in those top pics. Might be Amanita cokerii. Also as Eris said, some possible Hygrocybe including Hygrocybe conica, the witch's hat which stain super-black.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: xmush]
    #5873982 - 07/18/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

those are very nice pictures
i like the witch's hat
wish i could find some of those here in SC


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: RandomHero]
    #5874440 - 07/18/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

3 looks like Amanita Muscaria Var. Formosa's that I have found. Looks like it is too small to be sure untell it opens up. I am no expert either just thought I put in my input because it looks very similar to the ones I tripped off and find every year in a certian spot.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: Montanahunter420]
    #5874466 - 07/18/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There are other Amanitas that can look similar though.
I wouldn't guess just based on the way it looks in that pic. I know muscaria can fade to almost white, but the base of the stem is an important thing when it comes to muscaria identification.
I have the feeling that it's not muscaria anyways... I pick them all the time.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: dreamingtree]
    #5874504 - 07/18/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with eris on this one, i'm not convinced that thats Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa....if you want to know you should go back to where you found them a grab a few epsecially a larger speciman than we will know for sure. :mushroom2:


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5874769 - 07/18/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I wasn't tring to suggest it was Amanita Muscaria Var. Formosa I was just suggesting it might be. I looked up a little bit more on amanita's. I was shocked to see how close this Amanita pantherina var. velatipe looked to Amanita Muscaria Var. Formosa. Kind of scary
I not sure if causes deaths or poisonings or anything but damn besides the base and slightly smaller warts it looked extremely close to Amanita Muscaria Var. Formosa . I'll have to be carefull this year now I know that!!!!!!!!!! Here is the url if anyone is interested. http://pluto.njcc.com/~ret/amanita/species/velatipe.html


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: Montanahunter420]
    #5874845 - 07/18/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

DrunkenAttempt, many Amanita requests for mature specimens remain inconclusive. A mature specimen, even with the base dug up, and good photos is still very difficult to ID, and in most cases should not be given a 100% for sure ID unless you have the mushroom in hand and know what to look for. Especially with the Amanita genus.

Jeverden, both A. muscaria and A. pantherina can cause poisoning, and often cause stomach upsets, sweats, vomiting etc. for many people who consume them.

Any Amanita muscaria which is consumed should be either cooked thoroughly or dried before consumption. And this is of course after a proper ID. Short cuts in this field can lead to death.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: CureCat]
    #5877119 - 07/19/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)



that's what they look like from an overnight.


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Re: Went hunting today and had some decent finds [Re: dreamingtree]
    #5877346 - 07/19/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Nice photo. Xmush may be right on this ID... I cannot find a better match. Keep in mind, it appears that there may be more than one species of Amanita represented in the photos. However, I note distinctions between the mushrooms pictured and Amanita cokeri.

Specifically, The stipe of these mushrooms are far rougher than A. cokeri, and a common feature of A. cokeri are the scales that taper from the basal bulb to the lower part of the stipe. The mushrooms in question do not display these scales, rather, there is a soft shaggy material above the basal bulb and the entire stipe. Also, just before the bulb in the photos above, you can see a noticeable bulge or abrupt out-crop where the bulb attaches to the stipe. In A. cokeri, this is much less pronounced- the bulb seems more or less a continuation of the stipe, and likely less seperable than in other Amanita species.

Anyway, here are some photos:








*photos from Michael Kuo's website*


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