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Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - but now it died
#5871589 - 07/17/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I heard a squeak outside my window so I went outside to investigate. Two of the neighborhood cats were across the street chasing a little rabbit around on the lawn. It ran out on the street towards my house so I went out and scared the cats off, grabbed the rabbit, and brought it inside.
It seems uninjured, just a little fur missing. I've got it in a cage right now with a dish of water and it looks like it's going to sleep. What can I feed it? Would cat chow softened with water be OK until I can get to the pet store?
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871594 - 07/17/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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rabbits eat carrots!!
Sorry i'm not much help..
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Phishe]
#5871616 - 07/17/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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awww Tren, he looks so cute 
Carrots and water is what they eat and drink
but here you go http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/diet.html
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871617 - 07/17/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try feeding it some lettuce and carrots. Cute little guy. Kudos to you for intervening.
Sometimes when I'm out back I'll hear a cat screeching like it's being hurt... it just makes a guy's heart sink in his chest. Don't know if it's stupid humans or raccoons.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
#5871649 - 07/17/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd go with something simple. Perhaps a light breading and a cream sauce?
Just kidding. =)
Good job on the rescue. And yeah, they adore lettice and carrots and such. If you don't want to keep it, I'd put a flyer up at the local convenience stores, supermarkets, etc. Don't forget to include details on how you came to own it. People love a good back story. Especially when it involves being saved from the jaws of death.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: splifner180]
#5871678 - 07/17/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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bunny!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: splifner180]
#5871688 - 07/17/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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5 shrooms for saving the rabbit!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: cougercruiser]
#5871690 - 07/17/06 11:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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baby bunny ...tendor
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: DeathCompany]
#5871702 - 07/17/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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looks like a wild rabbit to me... no offence but keeping it confined is the WRONG thing to do.. kudos for saving it from the cats but no kudos for caging it up... let it go tomorow morning...
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871733 - 07/17/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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timothy hay for roughage... limit the veggies you give it if its young...
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: AliceDee]
#5871752 - 07/17/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
AliceDee said: looks like a wild rabbit to me... no offence but keeping it confined is the WRONG thing to do.. kudos for saving it from the cats but no kudos for caging it up... let it go tomorow morning...
I agree 100%.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: SpiritualSnorkel]
#5871757 - 07/17/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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raise it up, then eat it, when its plump. I heard they taste good.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Liquidkick]
#5871769 - 07/18/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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or u could sell it and buy drugs
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871789 - 07/18/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe carrots give baby rabbits the runs. Just feed it some greens until tomorrow. If your keeping it, bring it to the vet for a check up and get the right info on nutrition and such.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871790 - 07/18/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i could go for a new pair of mittens
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5871794 - 07/18/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good call. Feed it. Grow it. Eat it.
Rabbit stew is delicious, it will be like having a pet lobster.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Toddo]
#5871810 - 07/18/06 12:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Toddo said: I believe carrots give baby rabbits the runs. Just feed it some greens until tomorrow. If your keeping it, bring it to the vet for a check up and get the right info on nutrition and such.
any fruits or veggies will in the first year really....
hay and grass is the way if you are keeping it trendal...
rabbits are awesome pets, I had 3...
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Jim]
#5871939 - 07/18/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, sorry about the bad info on feed. I should have noted it was speculation.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: splifner180]
#5871967 - 07/18/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No prissy cat I've ever known is going to catch a rabbit with the runs, though.
At that point you start calling it an Octopus.
Cat won't see shit.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: splifner180]
#5872044 - 07/18/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure wild rabbits eat whatever the fuck they feel like eating.... that is only what they suggest for pet rabbits..
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: drtyfrnk]
#5872056 - 07/18/06 01:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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 This whole thread has made me about fall out of my seat, for some reason. Jeeze, maybe I need to go to sleep! This right here nearly took the words right out of my mouth, when I saw the pic and heard the story. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: blissedout]
#5872062 - 07/18/06 01:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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RUN AWAY FROM EVIL DATA.
How's Eli, Blissed?
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Jim]
#5872067 - 07/18/06 01:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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you can eat em.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: GnuBobo]
#5872072 - 07/18/06 01:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey Bobo! Elijah is doing great! I just got home from work about 2 hours ago and he was already crashed out.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: CaptainHeadbang]
#5872074 - 07/18/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know who you are, but I like your avatar/username. They accentuate themselves very nicely.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5872097 - 07/18/06 01:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I used to have several pet rabbits. Lettuce, cucumbers, carrots, egg plant slices, etc was what I normally fed them. Once in awhile I'd give them fruit to balance out their diets a bit, but they tend to like vegetables more.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Basilides]
#5872101 - 07/18/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm tellin you man... the stew.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5872158 - 07/18/06 02:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You have it calmed, then?
My fucking cats get all excited and hunt down chipmunks, baby bunnies--it's in their nature. I could tolerate it but they're not hungry--it's just instinct. So they toss the fuckers around and generally use said animal as a plaything. Also, they're de-clawed on the front paws.
Keep kitties inside, let it out, and smell its way back to its hole. Or, you could keep it as a pet. I would like to raise a raccoon or possum. You can domesticate them, and they're just fascinating.
Best of luck!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: GnuBobo]
#5872358 - 07/18/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya rabbits shouldnt be confined to small areas. if you have a goo backyard that is fenced off well (assuming you want to keep it) then just let it run wild in ur backyard. Feed it a source of lettuce, rabbit food (can be bought at pet stores) carrots, water and I think you can buy supplement milk from pet stores as ell. If you dont intend on keeping it, either take it out to the wild and release it as they are good at intergrating and are pretty independant animals, even at tender ages... it will find its way home.
But yeah, you interviened on nature, good and bad job I suppose, but I would have done the same thing (I have such a soft spot for animals)
go to a vet and ask him what you should do, but rabbits are a plague here in Aus so people just run over them or shovel them to the head so cruel
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5872369 - 07/18/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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lettuce and carrots until you can get to the pet shop to buy him some timothy hay pellets.
he's probably in shock too. so make sure you keep him somewhere where he feels safe and make sure he has plenty of water.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: blink]
#5872520 - 07/18/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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the bunny looks old enough to have been weened already. if that is the case, he's pretty much on his own. although his family is probably nearby. rabbits are very social animals, and normally live in groups.
Trendal, you should keep him safe for a couple days then let him go in a bush near where you found him. he'll find his way to his family and should be fine.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5872741 - 07/18/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Feed it timothy hay and any basic rabbit food from a pet store. The timothy hay is much more important, they need a constant source of fiber (they may die if their digestion is obstructed, they cannot vomit). Don't give it milk or anything like that, anything but rabbit milk is dangerous. I'm sure there are some animal rescues nearby that would rehabilitate and release him into the wild, Canada, NE & West coast US are where a lot of rabbit specific rescue shelters are ran. Good luck Trendal, thanks for saving him
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: AliceDee]
#5872777 - 07/18/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
AliceDee said: looks like a wild rabbit to me... no offence but keeping it confined is the WRONG thing to do.. kudos for saving it from the cats but no kudos for caging it up... let it go tomorow morning...
I have no intention of keeping the poor thing caged up any longer than I have to. Last night it was a choice between a cage or the cats...I live in the city so I don't have anywhere outside I could keep the thing safe. I also have my own house-cat to worry about...
I'm going with slothie's advice: keep it for a day or two until it's not in shock anymore, then let it go in the bushes.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5872974 - 07/18/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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good idea!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5873123 - 07/18/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You sound like a good hearted person. The world needs more people like you around.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: shithead]
#5873519 - 07/18/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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eat it
or keep it as a pet
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5874019 - 07/18/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nuzzle it in your bosom!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: absolute zero]
#5874151 - 07/18/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rabbit Season! Duck Season! Rabbit Season! Duck Season!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Droz]
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Good call!
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5874218 - 07/18/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just got home from work! He ate all the lettuce I gave him this morning, so I suppose that's a good thing eh?
A couple more pics:

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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5874226 - 07/18/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hold on...I don't think anyone has suggested this yet
OMG EAT IT LOLZ
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: Organic]
#5874753 - 07/18/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Time of death: 9:15pm EST.

Looks like he had some internal injuries or something. drtyfrnk and I just got back from the pet shop with a bag of food for him, but it was too late and he was already getting ready to die.
We just named him Smokey the Rabbit (cause you got to have a name if you're gonna be buried).
RIP Smokey, 2006-2006
We're gonna go bury him and smoke a few bowls in his honour.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5874779 - 07/18/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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nothing you could have done. you did what you could and made him as comfortable as possible. better than being eaten by cats. hopefully he didn't suffer too much. RIP Smokey. he is in a better place.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: trendal]
#5874988 - 07/18/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry man. But rabbits have a lot of things that can kill them. Heat (if they can't find shade), bacteria (their guts are REALLY picky about what they eat), dehydration, shock, etc. Atleast you tried.
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: razorbladeshoes]
#5875002 - 07/18/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sad, sad day to see this Trendal.
RIP Smokey the rabbit
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Re: Saved a baby rabbit from the cats - what do I do with it? [Re: razorbladeshoes]
#5875013 - 07/18/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, not much you can do eh. Cest la vie.
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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