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InvisibleFlop Johnson
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It's not always bad to trip for fun.
    #5871258 - 07/17/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not going to go as far as saying I'm fed up, but I am rather tired of people condemning the use of psychedelics for fun.

I don't know what everyone else experiences while they are tripping, but I have a lot of fun. I know that shroom trips are enlightening (not being facetious), but sometimes I am not looking for a universal experience, but I still want to experience the wild mentality of tripping.

So I guess my question is:

Do you think that it is okay to trip purely for fun at any point in time?


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #5871308 - 07/17/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MoeRon said:
So I guess my question is:

Do you think that it is okay to trip purely for fun at any point in time?





Of course :thumbup: Thats why I use them for fun and as a learning tool.

It is so dangerous to be in the right when the government is in the wrong.  There is a major difference between the recreational mushroom grower, and the crack fiend of the street.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: despisedicon]
    #5871314 - 07/17/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think mushrooms can be used however you personally choose to use them. Mushrooms are a very personal thing and so I say: To each his own. Enjoy.  :rockon:


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: despisedicon]
    #5871315 - 07/17/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

despisedicon said:
Quote:

MoeRon said:
So I guess my question is:

Do you think that it is okay to trip purely for fun at any point in time?





Of course :thumbup: Thats why I use them for fun and as a learning tool.




word for word correct :thumbup:


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: BlindLemon]
    #5872707 - 07/18/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i think there's no point in arguing about the way someone likes to trip, as long as he respects everybody else.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: iMark]
    #5872846 - 07/18/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Of course not. It's an enjoyable experience. People laugh have a good time with friends enjoy the scenery more, there's nothing wrong with using it for recreation. But respect people's opinion when they want to use tripping (especially acid) as a learning tool instead of something fun to do at a party.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: thehandtruck]
    #5872858 - 07/18/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see how it can't be used as a learning tool. If you sit there and fry for 6 hours and not think of a damn thing even slightly profound, than its all a waste.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5872924 - 07/18/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the last statement despisedicon said couldn't be more true. The government outlaws every drug because people abuse stuff like crack and smack. The average person, when they hear about street drugs, thinks about stuff people fiend for, rarely psychedelics. Even if these are brought up, the people fall back on the media/government bias as their only source of knowledge.

I don't always go into a trip to solve a problem. Usually I take something with the only expectation to have a good time, to enjoy everything around me. Sometimes things change directions and I do end up finding out something new, but nothing is a set standard.

It's called *recreational drug use* for a reason.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5873143 - 07/18/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I can't NOT have fun while I do shrooms.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5873178 - 07/18/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

The government outlaws every drug because people abuse stuff like crack and smack.




actually it was mainly due to racism

...the more you know


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the fun da mental rule [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #5873205 - 07/18/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

fun is the most essential part:
tripping has to be fun and it's gonna be mental
this is the fun da mental rule for all creative endeavors
first you have the fun
then you get da mental
and repeat, da more fun da more mental
it's totally understood.
it's fundamental.
right???

(dose wisely)


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: bobjones]
    #5873210 - 07/18/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Tripping and having fun? No, I see nothing wrong with that as long as you don't get too caught up in the giggling and stupid stuff to see the significance and lessons behind what you're experiencing. I don't think there's actually anyone who thinks if you're having fun you're doing it wrong, but there are a lot of people who just approach it with a mentality like "Oh my god this is so crazy I'm tripping balls, everything seems so pure and significant, too bad it's just drug induced bullshit". That's where I draw the line between spiritual tripper and ignorant fuck up...


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: StickyWater]
    #5873250 - 07/18/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well,
it can be easy to judge and slap labels on the neighbours.
but the real deal is
tend your own garden.
and be gentle.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: StickyWater]
    #5873328 - 07/18/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i agree with this.

i dont thik its bad to trip for fun sometimes, just as long as your respecting the shroom or drug and allow youself to be open to any insight that may come your way.

what i hate , and what i'll often say is that some of these users dont take the plant/ drug seriously at all, they think its sole purpose is to "fuck you up" without acknowledging how profound the impact a trip may or may not have on you. i think its the "i'll do anything to get high" users who bring up these feelings, the ones who have their fun irresponsibly and end up bringing down punishments on the whole drug community as a whole

every trip cannot be life changing
every trip cannot be solely fun oriented

more often than not you'll find a mix of both.

but as long as you respect yourself, those around you and the hallucinogen whatever way you trip is right.

it's all about respect .


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #5873500 - 07/18/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It is absolutely your right to decide at any time to put any chemicals you please into your body. Control of your mind and your body is your right and nobody has the right to tell you not to use as you please under any circumstances. However, if you endanger/unduly expose any other persons while exercising control over your mind and body, you violate their right to be free from this inappropriateness.

I think as long as you're not hurting anything, people should not feel right to condemn you for it. Clearly people who are extremely critical based on your motivation for drug use are just ignorant idea pushers anyway.

(some unique circumstances like addiction can make it appropriate for others to be concerned about you)


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5879127 - 07/19/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Shrooms are sacred, no doubt, but I think it's a decidedly western notion that sacred isn't sacred if it's enjoyable.

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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: despisedicon]
    #5879254 - 07/19/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

despisedicon said:
Quote:

MoeRon said:

It is so dangerous to be in the right when the government is in the wrong. There is a major difference between the recreational mushroom grower, and the crack fiend of the street.



They are both using drugs cause they enjoy them, they might have some differences, but if you use mushrooms everyday, you really are not that much different than someone that smokes crack everyday. The drug is different, but someone who abuses drugs to feel good all the time, no matter what the drug are pretty much the same. Someone who steals to buy mushrooms is no better than someone who steals to buy crack. I don't know very many people that eat mushrooms everyday, but I used to know a few people that took LSD everyday, and they were no better than crackheads. Of course the drug they were using was a lot cheaper, but they were still fiends. Also, right and wrong is relative, just cause you think you are right doesn't mean you are. I disagree with most of the policies, but that doesn't mean that I am right and they are wrong, it just means I think they are wrong.

Some of you people really need to get off your high horse about thinking that you are better than other people cause you use different drugs. Who the fuck cares how anyone wants to abuse themself, you are no different then the government in some instances, thinking that its a substance issue, when in fact its a freedom issue. Just my opinion though.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5879429 - 07/19/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I like to think you are perfectly righteous in using them for fun, so long as you can accept that your fun time might turn into a universe-pondering experience without your prior approval, and VICE VERSA!  :sunny:


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: kake]
    #5879643 - 07/19/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"I am rather tired of people condemning the use of psychedelics for fun."

Who has done that?


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5880428 - 07/20/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

There seems to be a few people on this forum who think using Psychedelics for recreation is a 'bad thing to do'.

I am fine with Recreational use, aslong as its done responsibly. I must admit, that I'd say 80% of the time I do mushrooms, its at a club/party. I love music on mushrooms, and I love dancing on mushrooms. However, just because I'm doing it in a 'fun' setting doesnt mean I get anything out of the trip. When I'm dancing, its so easy to get lost into my own head thinking.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: kaniz]
    #5880433 - 07/20/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Who gives a shit about what others think, use them for whatever you want. Noone uses drugs for a neutral reason, its because they are getting something positive out of it, anyone that tells you different is trying to sell you something.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5880441 - 07/20/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

and you know, I think that there is alot of benifit to be had out of 'simply a good time' anyways.

Going out with friends, laughing, bonding - creating closer connections with them. Stress release, getting some physical activity (how many people end up going for LONG hikes when they normally dont do much otherwise?), dancing. Theres been many times after a good mush trip that was 'just for fun', has left me with some insight and a mood lift for the days to follow.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: kaniz]
    #5880656 - 07/20/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This whole thing reminds me of what's written on the sleeve of Shpongle's "Tales of the Inexpressible"

"Your body is a nightclub as well as a temple"

During my last trip I stood watching reality inflate till it burst, laughing my arse off. Gurus and also buddhists (I'm a Zen buddhist btw) spend a lot of time laughing - sometimes my deep meditation is broken up by spontaeous laughter.

Reality's a funny thing.

Spirituality is fun...

...fun can be deeply spiritual

It's all in how you look at it & up to the individual what they make of their experiences - however they want to define them.


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: theorganicdomino]
    #5881051 - 07/20/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think there is a time and place for tripping. However,if tripping wasn't fun or for HAVING fun I probably wouldn't do it.

Obviously most feel it has much more meaning than just a way to have "fun"


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Re: It's not always bad to trip for fun. [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #5881055 - 07/20/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Do you think that it is okay to trip purely for fun at any point in time?



not at any point of time, but sometimes sure


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