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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Basilides]
    #5870467 - 07/17/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually, according to the APA, if someone has a positive self image they are by definition psychologically healthy.




thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: d33p]
    #5870473 - 07/17/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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She hates her penis. That doesn't sound like happy nor normal to me.

Some of you liberals go overboard with positivity.




Get rid of the penis then. Problem solved.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: d33p]
    #5870484 - 07/17/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

She hates her penis. That doesn't sound like happy nor normal to me.

So what? Some people hate their hair color. So they change it. When this girl is old enough to make that decision, she'll have her penis removed and continue to live as happily as bigots will allow.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: d33p]
    #5870509 - 07/17/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually, according to the APA, if someone has a positive self image they are by definition psychologically healthy.




thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard.




It's a primacy guideline that curbs subjectivity in psychological and psychiatric research. I.e., the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rule of thumb.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Diploid]
    #5870527 - 07/17/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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So when being trans gender is normal

Why are so many people so hung up on the word 'normal'.

Normal is anyone who is happy. This little girl is currently happy, but that wont last long when she enters the real world and start running into 'normal' people like you who know better than she how she should behave. :sad:




I'm still unclear as to when the definition of "boy" and "girl" were changed. If I said that I felt like I was really a lion and that I hated my human body, would you refer to me as the King of the Jungle, or the Lion posting on the other side of the computer?  HE has a penis, HE has testicles.  Maybe you could tell us how it's "normal" to call people like that a girl?


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Silversoul]
    #5870542 - 07/17/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Gershowitz and Berowitz are two of the big names from this, anyone want to guess what race, or shall we say "tribe", is behind this latest push at filth?



Um...These people are individuals, not some race or tribe.




Oh yea no definatly. It's odd that the founders of the NAACP, the early and present "civil rights workers", the early feminist, the current feminists, odd that someone with a fucked up mind like mind could dare to draw a connection.

Even more odd that those people still want their own race/nation and will kill innocents to get it. But thats just my conspiracy theory, obviously if I knoew more I'd have a degree in sociology.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5870549 - 07/17/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Normal is highly subjective. I think that's the whole point.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Silversoul]
    #5870550 - 07/17/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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The Mom has a Masters in Sociology and the dad is a lawyer.......explains a lot.



Yes. People in the social sciences tend to have fewer redneck tendencies.




Don't you have a mullet?


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Diploid]
    #5870565 - 07/17/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I call her a girl out of respect.




Thats the most intellectually dishonest thing I've read in a while. "girl" and "boy" aren't mental attributes, they are physical characteristics. What if I saw some homo that acted like a female, can I call him girl all of the time? Oh nope, thats homophobia.


I'm now announcing that I have species dysphoria. I'm really a lion trapped in a humans body. I expect to be refered to as "the lion" rather than "the person", and I hope that you speciesest backwards hicks don't have a problem with that, i've got an ACLU lawyer right here!


Oh, I also might eat a few of you, but it's chill, respect my wishes n shit
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She says she is a girl despite the penis. I respect her enough to follow through with her wishes to be addressed and treated as a girl.




Despite what we may have seen in OTD, you can't have a penis and be a girl. Just doesn't happen.
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Recall that she's been though extensive medical analysis by this point. The medical consensus is that her psyche is that of a girl and that this is not a phase she will outgrow.



Medical consensus a few hundred years ago would have been to call the child a witch and burn them.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Basilides]
    #5870575 - 07/17/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually, according to the APA, if someone has a positive self image they are by definition psychologically healthy.




So hating a part of your body that establishes your identity is "positive self image"? Odd.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5870577 - 07/17/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still unclear as to when the definition of "boy" and "girl" were changed.

This isn't about strict definitions. Society treats the genders differently. This girl has a male body, but she is a girl. And no matter what YOU say, I'll take her word about who she is over yours.

If I said that I felt like I was really a lion

That would make you dysfunctional and certainly unhappy as you would be unable to interact with other humans as a lion.

This has nothing to do with a functioning little girl stuck in a male body who is currently happy only because she hasn't been exposed to bigots yet.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: wilshire]
    #5870583 - 07/17/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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one part of the story mentioned that the child "hates his penis". if this were a female child who dressed as a boy, acted as a boy, wanted to be a boy, and hated her vagina, she wouldn't be reinforced like this boy. she'd be hailed as a victim of pervasive misogyny and given counciling to help her accept her identity as a female. when it's a boy who wants to be a girl, they don't bother with any of that. i think that's a valid prediction, and while i don't know the specifics of this kid's situation, or who these adults are, it worries me that they might be letting their biases get in the way of the kid's best interests.




Thumbs up.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5870590 - 07/17/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Basilides said:
Actually, according to the APA, if someone has a positive self image they are by definition psychologically healthy.




So hating a part of your body that establishes your identity is "positive self image"?  Odd.




Hence the transition from male to female, la derrr :rolleyes:


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Diploid]
    #5870596 - 07/17/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

YOU ARE, semantics, now stfu.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5870632 - 07/17/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So let me ask you: what do you propose should be done with this person?


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Diploid]
    #5870656 - 07/17/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a psychiatrist. I'd say that something needs to be done, thats for sure. The idiotic liberal mindset of just allowing disfunction to occur so that we can all feel warm and cuddly is just foolish. This boy has a rather serious problem. He needs to be counceled and taught that people with a penis and testicles arent' girls. I can't believe that you all think that a five year old boy that hates his penis is somehow qualified to speak on behalf of his mental stability.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Diploid]
    #5870664 - 07/17/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I really don't know, I know He would have been better off, if He had better parents, raising him in a better society. I honestly don't know what should be done for people like this. They will have to suffer the hardships that come along with this life, and I honestly feel bad for these people.

They are a product of our ass backwards societies.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5870676 - 07/17/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What should the parents have done differently?


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5870678 - 07/17/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Psychiatry's Golden Rule: Do no harm. If allowing this child to persue the female identity reduces persisting suffering with the currently imposed male identity, it is a legitimate cathartic method.


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Re: 'Transgendered' Child Set to Enter Florida School System [Re: Veritas]
    #5870684 - 07/17/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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What the hell is "dysphoria phobe"??  :confused: 

A phobia involves extreme fear of something...are you trying to say that "Pat" has a fear of male genitalia?

Dysphoria means "An emotional state characterized by anxiety, depression, or unease."  As Pat's gender assignment was a source of unease and depression, Pat was diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria.




"Gender dysphoria -- called gender identity disorder by the American Psychiatric Association -- is commonly misunderstood today, much as homosexuality was 50 years ago."

I would like to DICK SLAP the mother of this poor kid.

IMO a 3 year old can not be diagnosed with Gender dysphoria. so I guess that make me a..... 

Intolerant  3-5 year old  Gender dysphoria transgenderphobe??


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