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Armed judges
    #5868965 - 07/17/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

who thinks there's something wrong with this picture??


http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/15/armed.judges.ap/index.html


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Re: Armed judges [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5868981 - 07/17/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I fail to see anything wrong with it. Judges are people too, no? They're American citizens and thus the Bill of Rights applies to them as well. If a judge obtains a concealed carry permit then why shouldn't he be allowed to carry his gun under his robes? They would face the same, if not more and different, threats than you or I would and should be allowed to protect themselves against such threats if the need arises.

It's not like we're going to see something like "Judge Doom sentences you to DEATH!" and proceeds to whip out his pistol and unload on the person. Maybe you're being a bit too paranoid?


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Re: Armed judges [Re: DNKYD]
    #5869070 - 07/17/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i prob am being 2 paranoid but i just keep getting a bad feeling when i think about it. cann't put my finger on it but...

whats the guards with the pistols in view for then?

why does the judge have to hide his gun under his robe??? it should be in plain view?? im not up on gun laws but if i were to register to carry a gun you cann't hide it in your undys....you would be arrested if you got caught like that.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5869137 - 07/17/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Not with a CONCEALED CARRY permit. The name says it all. You are allowed to conceal it under your clothing if you have the permit. You could hide it in your glove box and if a piggy pulls you over he can't do shit as long as you have your permit with you and you're not under the influence of anything.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: DNKYD]
    #5869197 - 07/17/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

^^^ What DNKYD said

Nothing wrong with a judge packing. Everyone should have their concealed weapon permit and have a gun with them at all times where legal. There is nothing wrong with being armed. There would be alot less gun crime if the responsible citizens would protect themselves instead of relying on someone else to do it for them.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: DNKYD]
    #5869251 - 07/17/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not like we're going to see something like "Judge Doom sentences you to DEATH!" and proceeds to whip out his pistol and unload on the person. Maybe you're being a bit too paranoid?






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Re: Armed judges [Re: DNKYD]
    #5869264 - 07/17/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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DNKYD said:
It's not like we're going to see something like "Judge Doom sentences you to DEATH!" and proceeds to whip out his pistol and unload on the person.




Oh I dunno, I imagine judges get pretty pissed off at times at defendants based on the circumstances of their crimes. I can see judges going postal and shooting up their courtrooms every so often.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5869319 - 07/17/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So, whenever you get pissed off, you shoot people?


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Re: Armed judges [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5869391 - 07/17/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

when i was a kid i had a bb gun, when i got pissed....my sins haunt me still till this day....them poor squirrels and birds :frown:

but i was just a kid and didn't know any better, and my parents weren't good about supervising shit like that.

but i cann't help but still laugh about it.....i dumped about 20 animal bodys over my fence....which happened to land in a church yard....i actually wittnessed that poor kid on that lawn mower he stood up and looked around like omfg what have i done???  feathers flying everywhere....


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Re: Armed judges [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #5869410 - 07/17/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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And though it ruled in favor of pistol-packing jurists, the committee warned that judges must "be patient,




Haha I can see it now. Alll hell breaks lose and turns into all out gun battle jurists tuck n rollin, Judge standin ontop his bench ZMG in each hand. Lawyers turnin over tables and firin back.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: musicturkey]
    #5869442 - 07/17/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm think at some point, some judge will fire off rounds in a courtroom, now that this law is in effect...although that does sound create a humurous scene in my head :p


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Re: Armed judges [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5869496 - 07/17/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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So, whenever you get pissed off, you shoot people?




Of course not. But statistically human beings do occasionally. Watch the news.

I would not like the idea of being tried by an armed person who is "judging" me either.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5870112 - 07/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Whats the difference on what a guy is wearing who is about to decide the rest of your life for you gonna make? Depending on what your standing there for he can just say the word and your dead already. Wearing a gun while he does it doesn't really change anything.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5870253 - 07/17/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

We'll see how it plays out. I believe executive officers should have the guns because judges are supposed to be impartial. If anything, they could just put the judges behind bulletproof glass.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #5870834 - 07/17/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm think at some point, some judge will fire off rounds in a courtroom, now that this law is in effect...although that does sound create a humurous scene in my head :p




They didn't enact a new law for this. The New York state Advisory Committee on Judicial Ethics just issued a statement saying that there is no law barring them from carrying a weapon in the courtroom and that it is "ethically permissible."

This really isn't too far fetched. Think about it, guys. Judges in major cities sentence thousands of people. Some of these people may be heads of large drug rings, gang leaders, mafia, etc. If a judge sentences one of these people it will inevitably piss off at least some of the people they know. If the pissed off parties are armed and don't mind the jail time they may try to retaliate against the judge. Don't you think the judge should be allowed to carry protection on the way to work, at work, on the way home?


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Re: Armed judges [Re: DNKYD]
    #5871043 - 07/17/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't you think the judge should be allowed to carry protection on the way to work, at work, on the way home?




I sure do, I happen to be very closely related to a judge, and I know many other judges.

many of them carry firearms, not because they plan on executing a defendant but because emotions run high in courtrooms, you never know what to expect from people who are in positions completely alien to them.

bailiffs help in the courtroom, but they can't be there all the time, not to mention the fact that most bailiffs are retired police or jailers and aren't typically in the best of shape.

Judges are guaranteed to piss off 50% of the people who come in front of them, threats aren't uncommon, even in non criminal courts. It's foolish to be in that line of work and not protect yourself.

just recently the justice department began a 12 million dollar program to install security systems in the homes of federal judges who wish to have them, not every judge accepted, and the majority of the judges who did still see a need to take their own security into their own hands.

most judges are publicly elected officials, they're elected because they know the law and have established themselves as respected lawyers, not exactly the type of people to make emotionally fueled irrational decisions.


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Re: Armed judges [Re: deryl]
    #5871551 - 07/17/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i think its cool for a judge to have a weapon but how many people would be dead if judge judy had gun up her puss. mybe she does have a gun up her puss...that would explain alot


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Re: Armed judges [Re: Jcheech]
    #5873147 - 07/18/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly I think he was doing it for his own protection. I know that recently I recall a story on the news where a guy was given his sentence and he attacked one of the baliffis, got his gun and killed him before he was shot and killed too. It makes sense to have the judge carrying a weapon too. Someone elses lives are in his hands, and he doesnt want to leave his life in someone elses hands.
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Re: Armed judges [Re: dedjam]
    #5873508 - 07/18/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Nothing wrong with a judge packing. Everyone should have their concealed weapon permit and have a gun with them at all times where legal. There is nothing wrong with being armed. There would be alot less gun crime if the responsible citizens would protect themselves instead of relying on someone else to do it for them.




Really? That's your idea of an improved society? That's where we should be headed to?


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Re: Armed judges [Re: OJK]
    #5874206 - 07/18/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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