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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlineleery11
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #5870462 - 07/17/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

in many ways it is, the question is attaining lucidity.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Invisibleblackdragon999
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: leery11]
    #5870546 - 07/17/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

if that question is indeed lucid. tell me why you believe I am talking to you right now...or do you?


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OfflineNewbieS
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #5870576 - 07/17/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It will be just like before you were born. You weren't really anything. Then cells formed from TINY chromosomes and you were pieced together, and eventually your conscious kicked in and you learned how to manipulate your surroundings.

Now imagine that but completely backwards, and at the end is when you lose consciousness and become what you once were.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #5870582 - 07/17/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i dunno.

is that a wakeup call?

i still have questions, because my lucid dreaming practice does not really seem to yield the same experiential fruits in "waking" reality, such that though things seem like they could be entirely made up of dream.... I am still left with a concrete world.

i suppose waking up all of a sudden would not do very well at all though, now, would it? more of a gradual empowerment, freedom, and liberation, that you could sanely handle.

so are you NOT talk to me? I pose this question not in the sense of "all one mind" but more like, do you have sentience to be able to talk to me right now?

as far as I know, my dream characters don't have sentience unless they have something important to teach me, otherwise they are easy to control and just reflections of me... me being the "God" mind, whereas I assume God has this relation to us, none of us in particular ARE the God mind dreaming... rather can awaken to God's lucidity.

meaning that I'm real and so are you, separateness may be an illusion but it's not like you're in my head, it's like we're in the "God head" [together] that may be an issue of semantics though.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #5871066 - 07/17/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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blackdragon999 said:
what if "life" is just a dream.




Dreams aren't ''real'', so Life can't be a dream because of all the ''good'' and ''bad'' emotions that you feel. Emotions are real because they are in you.

well... thats how i see it ^_-


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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: SimpleThoughts]
    #5871084 - 07/17/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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SimpleThoughts said:
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blackdragon999 said:
what if "life" is just a dream.




Dreams aren't ''real'', so Life can't be a dream because of all the ''good'' and ''bad'' emotions that you feel. Emotions are real because they are in you.




I often experience intense emotions in my dreams.


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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5871121 - 07/17/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
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SimpleThoughts said:
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blackdragon999 said:
what if "life" is just a dream.




Dreams aren't ''real'', so Life can't be a dream because of all the ''good'' and ''bad'' emotions that you feel. Emotions are real because they are in you.




I often experience intense emotions in my dreams.




Yes but these emotions don't affect you're life, but emotions that you experience in your life can. That's why life is real and dreams not.


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WE CAN'T CHANGE THE WORLD. LIKE EVERY PERSON,
THE WORLD IS WHAT HE IS, THE ONLY THINGS WE
HAVE TO DO IS, RESPECT IT AND DEAL WITH IT.


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Invisibleblackdragon999
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: SimpleThoughts]
    #5871243 - 07/17/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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SimpleThoughts said:
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itstarssaddam said:
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SimpleThoughts said:
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blackdragon999 said:
what if "life" is just a dream.




Dreams aren't ''real'', so Life can't be a dream because of all the ''good'' and ''bad'' emotions that you feel. Emotions are real because they are in you.




I often experience intense emotions in my dreams.




Yes but these emotions don't affect you're life, but emotions that you experience in your life can. That's why life is real and dreams not.




I am emotion...emotion is me. Emotions are not real because they are in me, but because they are me. If indeed I am an illusion then those emotions would also be. They are only chemicals, I believe I am I am alive because even illusions are "reality". Dreams are just as real as "real life".


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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: blackdragon999]
    #5871646 - 07/17/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the emotions and visions of my dreams are the core of my life and influence what I do day to day.
what I do day to day influences my dreams
neither is more or less real to me


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Invisibleblackdragon999
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Re: What happens when one dies? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5871662 - 07/17/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what comes first... the chicken or egg?


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