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2FiNiTe
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Re: CONTAM OR PISS (PICTURE) [Re: fastfred]
#5876623 - 07/19/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I couldnt agree more, truthfully the only information I have to go on is yours and RR. It doesnt surprise me that myc. has a waste product that is harmful to different forms of life. Especially forms of life that are harmful to the organism itself.
Basically the point im trying to resolve is the fact that myc. "piss" doesnt occure unless the myc. is under some type of stress from things such as the stuff you mentioned: CO2, Bacteria, Heat, anything harmful to the myc. itself. So can we at least agree that myc. "piss" is a result of UNWANTED stress in one form or the other?
-------------------- "Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living." General Omar N. Bradley
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RogerRabbit
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Re: CONTAM OR PISS (PICTURE) [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#5877092 - 07/19/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, we can't agree. Mycelium does not urinate, period.
Metabolytes can be secreted whether the mycelium is under stress or not. I've often seen quite large puddles of metabolytes forming on the top of manure based substrates during initial colonization. These substrates were not exposed to excess temps, co2, or a long incubation period. I've also seen and photographed metabolytes forming on a petri dish being colonized in completely sterile conditions. Mycologists agree that the metabolytes have a protective function and that they're antimicrobial. Some production of metabolyte is going to occur no matter what. Perhaps the mycelium is producing them for the future, sort of like us buying insurance before we have an accident.
Most of the antibiotics we use for medicine are produced from mycelium metabolytes. I know of no common medicine produced from urine. Using such terms as 'piss' only shows vulgarity and ignorance of mycology. Let's clean it up please. RR
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Edited by werdnaeroom8 (07/20/06 10:32 PM)
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creamcorn
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Re: CONTAM OR PISS (PICTURE) [Re: ]
#5884355 - 07/21/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have a bad feeling for you that that's going to soon be covered in green.
looks like hints of it already... and i just know that look that your cake has going. that raised white spot you describe as having "spider eyes" looks a lot like green before it turns green. it also secretes metabolites, and it appears to be doing so.
ill cross my fingers for you but we'll see soon enough.
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