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Offlinewrestler_az
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    #5864243 - 07/16/06 03:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the easy way out?

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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864251 - 07/16/06 03:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Drugs are mind tools, easy way out? fuck no.


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864270 - 07/16/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the fun way out :laugh:


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Re: drugs [Re: Dobie]
    #5864272 - 07/16/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ps i got aids from smokeing pot


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864273 - 07/16/06 03:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The last thing I want to do while depressed is take drugs.


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Re: drugs [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5864285 - 07/16/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

even if its ecstacy?


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Re: drugs [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5864286 - 07/16/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

maybe not so much the easy way out strictly by definition....

but could we be cheating ourselves with the artificial happiness? instant reward as apposed to not?


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864295 - 07/16/06 04:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

artifical happiness is still happiness..........but really, it's up to the persons mindstate before they even take drugs...it might make some people happy but thats not the reason i do drugs.


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Re: drugs [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5864302 - 07/16/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

shrooms make me happy.


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Re: drugs [Re: mikeownow]
    #5864321 - 07/16/06 04:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

its an easy way out for me.. im not going to lie.. im bipolar and when ever i get depressed i simply roll a peach passion blunt and it makes everything better


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864326 - 07/16/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Anything can be "the easy way out" if you use it "properly" for that purpose. It all depends on weather or not you even want a "way out". I love using "quotations".

They can also be used as beautiful tools for cultural and self reflection.


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864350 - 07/16/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

easy way out, maybe on short notice with some drugs (also depends on yourself ofcoarse) but not permanently. Some drugs can help with some things though trough self reflection/insightfullness


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Re: drugs [Re: Banez]
    #5864386 - 07/16/06 05:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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OHSBrave06 said:
its an easy way out for me.. im not going to lie.. im bipolar and when ever i get depressed i simply roll a peach passion blunt and it makes everything better




Amen. I used to be very antidrug. But the things these doctors perscribe are just problems themselves. A lot of them don't work. And I love the "we have to try different medicines until you react to one appropriately...every1 is different".

I wish I had smoked herb when my depression was more servere. Couldve saved some hospital visits.


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Re: drugs [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5864422 - 07/16/06 05:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

easy way in :yesnod:


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Re: drugs [Re: Simisu]
    #5864425 - 07/16/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I LOVE DRUGS


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864436 - 07/16/06 05:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i dunno, i think alot.

and more and more im starting to notice patterns in my thoughts, especially while under the influence. ive noticed that anytime i take a certain substance, there will more than likely be some recurring thought loops and or themes specific to the type of drug im on. for instance....

when i roll, like i did tonight, there comes a point during which i question the origin of my feelings and my motives for dosing. and i wonder why i cant seem to find the happiness that hides inside this little pill out in the real world. is it there for me anymore, or did i miss my window? maybe its there but i cant see it through the fog of instant gratification, hence the "easy way out".

now dont get me wrong, im not all depressed and shit (well, sometimes i am....but thats not the case here) and i dont feel that the drugs i have come to enjoy are the problem here...or maybe i dont want to feel that, but secretly do? i dont know where im going with this. but every time i trip, or roll, or get really stoned, or take some opiates, or what ever the fuck.....i am often pointed to my sober life, and the feeling that there is something missing from it. im just not sure if its practical to blame the drugs here, though there is a part of me that is quick to make that judgment.

maybe im just coming down and need some sleep? :smirk:

maybe....


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864461 - 07/16/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

see... that's EXECTLY what i mean!

it's the easy way in to your self... you have to learn from each and every expiriance so you can make your sober life better!


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Re: drugs [Re: Simisu]
    #5864462 - 07/16/06 06:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

*otherwise it's just like masturbation :shrug:


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864471 - 07/16/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Certain drugs can help trigger the release of attachment, allowing you to temporarily find a true sense of freedom.

The problem is, this inspires us. We realize that, if we can find it on drugs, it's possible to find 'freedom of desire' in sober waking life without help as well. Thus, it becomes a "goal" subconsciously for us to learn to recreate the feeling sober.

'Freedom of desire' is not freedom FROM desire, but instead a free-ness that allows one to love and desire 'all that is' equally; as opposed to getting hung up on small details and making false-idols out of them. (ie, believing that you need a substance in order to reach a certain state of peacefulness... essentially worshipping the habit instead of using the substance as a tool.)

After a lot of searching for proper description, I've decided that the human struggle is one of attachment. Not everyone is attached to the most obvious things (like drugs) and that makes it a little harder to accept.

However, the BENEFIT found in being one of those who is attached to a very tangible and specific concept or state of being is it's very graspability. It is a lot harder to stay in a cloud of denial and refuse to acknowledge attachment when it is staring you in the face in the form of a drug addiction.

Some things to think about... if you want... :smile:


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Re: drugs [Re: Simisu]
    #5864472 - 07/16/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

why do i have to make easy so complicated?

popped a valium and off to bed. i will revisit this thread after some sleep.

i had a great fucking time tonight though! had one of the most intense and clean rolls ive ever had. rates right up there next to the first time. met some new friends and spent some much needed stress free time with my bro while partying it up under the desert stars. gnite.


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864498 - 07/16/06 06:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Funny thing is, there's no easy way out of certain drugs.. once you let them take hold of your life, it's too late to easily get out.
I've been there and don't care to go back.

While they might be an easy way to deal with temporary problems, they can permanently screw up your life.


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864521 - 07/16/06 07:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well... i dunno why society is fucked up like it is :shrug:
we have so much and yet so little... our expectations from ourselves are much too high and it's close to impossible to let your self enjoy the moment usually! drugs make it apparent and excesible in a way...

it's hard to be human these days :tongue:
i was never a spiritual person i might even call my self an ethiest but lately i've been thinking that this aspect of my life is lacking in respect to the rest of me... that's not to say that i'm gonna take up some sort of belife system but maybe i/all of us should cultivate our soul just as much as we cultivate our physical selves ya know?

there's no right or wrong, only what makes sense to us :shrug:
if taking drugs to realize you're an anal person and you should loosen up does it for you who's to tell you that's wrong?
you might have started on the opposit direction, just trying to have fun but you've anded up questioning the idea of fun and the how & why have fun... whatever...
it gets confusing but it's only what you make of it!

if you're one to take drugs souly to get "fucked up" and forget about whatever's going on in yr life or if you're just experimenting...
it's only what you make of it!
and clearly you invest much thought into yr drug use (or you wouldn't be here :wink:)

maybe not with opiats and the likes though (dunno about that...... is there anything to learn from opiats?)


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Re: drugs [Re: eris]
    #5864528 - 07/16/06 07:15 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Funny thing is, there's no easy way out of certain drugs.. once you let them take hold of your life, it's too late to easily get out.
I've been there and don't care to go back.

While they might be an easy way to deal with temporary problems, they can permanently screw up your life.




And there's drugs which have the potential to permanantly "fix" your life too. It's back to the whole battle of evermore thing.


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5864915 - 07/16/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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wrestler_az said:
the easy way out?

discuss...




Easy way out of what? :confused:


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Re: drugs [Re: unbeliever]
    #5865767 - 07/16/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

easy way out of your mind :tongue:


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Re: drugs [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5865777 - 07/16/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Mind tool AND easy way out... or just plain old fucking fun!

Wooooooooo!!!!


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