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hyphae
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: mMmMmmuShRooM]
#5865753 - 07/16/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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mMmMmmuShRooM said: Hey hyphae I hope you don't mind, but I mooched your link for the oyster shell flour. I can't find that stuff at any of my local department stores.
No problem just make sure you place an order of $20 or more as it seems they charge a small order fee and minimum shipping as well.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: fastfred]
#5865757 - 07/16/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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fastfred said: I wouldn't say it's negligible. It's about 5 degrees IME. It's also hotter in the center than the outsides obviously.
80-82F in the incubator is optimal for getting 85F in the jars IME.
-FF
The center of the jar is in no way 5 degrees higher than the outside never ever. Check it out yourself with a dial probe thermometer.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: hyphae]
#5865795 - 07/16/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't mean that the center is 5+ what the outside is. I meant the center is around 5F above what the air temp in the incubator is. The center is probably only a degree or two above what the outside is. That's with rye jars, so PF jars probably don't run quite that much warmer. But they are a couple degrees warmer than air temp.
It's enough that you probably want to account for it when setting your incubator temp.
-FF
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hyphae
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: fastfred]
#5865806 - 07/16/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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fastfred said: I didn't mean that the center is 5+ what the outside is. I meant the center is around 5F above what the air temp in the incubator is. The center is probably only a degree or two above what the outside is. That's with rye jars, so PF jars probably don't run quite that much warmer. But they are a couple degrees warmer than air temp.
It's enough that you probably want to account for it when setting your incubator temp.
-FF
For sure especially if it's anywhere near full! A few jars I certainly wouldn't worry at all about it though. I myself have always compensated 2 degrees not that it really matters but it's protocol here.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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liamtheloser
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: fastfred]
#5865813 - 07/16/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i did a temp probe on a colonizing pf jar, the verm must act like an insulator, because the inside was actually around 5 degrees warmer than my incubator... *shrug*
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hyphae
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5865831 - 07/16/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser said: i did a temp probe on a colonizing pf jar, the verm must act like an insulator, because the inside was actually around 5 degrees warmer than my incubator... *shrug*
Controlled experiment I'm sure right? I've also done this (years ago) with much different results.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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liamtheloser
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: hyphae]
#5865848 - 07/16/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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*shrug* i just did it on one jar, so obviously results could vary, but as far as making any mistakes, it's rather simple... meat thermometer into the middle of the jar, and the same thermometer laying right next to the jar... just about 5 degrees difference. could also be because i don't use a TiT, i use my own design of incubator. whatever the reason, the fact was, the jar was warmer in the middle than it was on the outside... just like a human body.
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: hyphae]
#5865859 - 07/16/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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pet foodf store has crushed oyster shell
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hyphae
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5865917 - 07/16/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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liamtheloser said: *shrug* i just did it on one jar, so obviously results could vary, but as far as making any mistakes, it's rather simple... meat thermometer into the middle of the jar, and the same thermometer laying right next to the jar... just about 5 degrees difference. could also be because i don't use a TiT, i use my own design of incubator. whatever the reason, the fact was, the jar was warmer in the middle than it was on the outside... just like a human body.
I have also found jars to warmer in the middle than on the outsides.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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hyphae
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Re: Mycelium just stopped growing... [Re: Libertycapper]
#5865925 - 07/16/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Libertycapper said: pet foodf store has crushed oyster shell
You want powerized or floured oyster shell as crushed oyster shell has no buffering ability at all. Even oyster shell flour is not as effective at buffering as chalk or limestone flour because it isn't water soluble.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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