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OfflinePhishe
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Give it a try?
    #5863719 - 07/16/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Can we all remember not to take any violent action. Just try not to cause physical or mental harm to anyone. Is that too much to ask?

Anyone with me?


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863722 - 07/16/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That's all we should ever expect of one another.

It's hard though. Especially on the mental side.

Things are complicated.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863740 - 07/16/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Piss off you limey fucking bloke! I oughta slap you in the mouth!






Kidding. I could give it a shot.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5863754 - 07/16/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

^ :smile:

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
That's all we should ever expect of one another.

It's hard though.  Especially on the mental side.

Things are complicated.




Well lets dwell on that. Maybe we can discover what the problem is and find a solution. What makes it complicated?


Edited by Phishe (07/16/06 12:35 AM)


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863763 - 07/16/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

We are ourselves, and that is all we are, as much as the nature of reality is such that all things are one, it is impossible to ignore that Perception exists, and that Perception is the basis for reality as we experience it. I have my wants, you have your wants, we all have the same needs and anything beyond that is Want. These things are bound to overlap and to clash. No one can be expected to take the time to think about everyone else all of the time.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis


Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (07/16/06 12:36 AM)


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5863790 - 07/16/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well said, but does 'want' really have to cause damage to other people? There are many things i want, but you can't have everything you want, especially if it conflicts with other people.

Also, early in life we develope our likes and dislikes. What we want is created by us, so can't there be something in our lives that develope a more peaceful want.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: Phishe]
    #5864268 - 07/16/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't have to, but it usually does. satisfying a 'Want' usually doesn't really satisfy (as opposed to satisfying a need) it only leads to more want which eventually bumps into the wants of others, leading to conflict. The hardest thing is to distinguish between needs and wants.

But I'm with you. Let's kick some serious non-violent ass. Or, you know, some less violent metaphor...
:peace: :hippie: :peace:


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Give it a go? [Re: Phishe]
    #5864316 - 07/16/06 04:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"One may say one are trying, but one got to do it, to do it!"
-Unknown :p


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Re: Give it a go? [Re: Gomp]
    #5864324 - 07/16/06 04:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Humans are inherently self-centered and belittling others in anyway feeds our ego.

Would a win be a win if no1 else lost?


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Re: Give it a go? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5864327 - 07/16/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ego's are stupid IMO


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Re: Give it a go? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5864364 - 07/16/06 04:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Why would one's happiness depend on the unhappiness of others?

I know that's how it works for many people, but it really makes no sense.

Damn our insecure little egos.


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Re: Give it a go? [Re: koppie]
    #5864876 - 07/16/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The "wants" and desires is a big part of unhappiness, and it is easer to accept it with dislike rather than change it and become stronger in return. To change it would be to give you're self more control over your "wants" and desires of when and where so you will have the strength to "stand down" when some one else can not live w/out having their "wants" because they are impatient and so unaware as a person to acknowledge or see that any one else matters the way they do. It may not seem fair but by doing this you gain so much Patience, self awareness, happiness that you have the mind awareness to let things pass you with out getting huffy puffy and contributing to the problem.... people learn more if you give them room to see there own problem, let them make them selves obvious, they will feel like an ass or will see how rude or whatever they were being and want to be more courteous for the next person and some will not care or even see but at least you can have a smoother existence and a happier every day, and when you let people be in there own rudeness with out it hurting you it helps them. Well I hope I am making sense.


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Re: Give it a go? [Re: Phishe]
    #5864898 - 07/16/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

As a general rule I don't find it too hard to live my life in such a way that doesn't harmfully impact others. It's really not difficult to not hurt people. I mean, c'mon.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: Phishe]
    #5864900 - 07/16/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

see the movie 'strawdogs' with dustin hoffman
he tries to do that too
as much as id love that,its practically impossible without looking like a coward

how many times can we turn our cheeks?


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: quiver]
    #5864907 - 07/16/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

quiver said:
see the movie 'strawdogs' with dustin hoffman
he tries to do that too
as much as id love that,its practically impossible without looking like a coward

how many times can we turn our cheeks?




So looking "cool" or "tough" or "manly" is more important than not hurting other people? That's fucking retarded.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: unbeliever]
    #5864922 - 07/16/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: is all i can say to that flame

try to expand your little mind and see the bigger picture and get back to me in a year or so


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: quiver]
    #5864941 - 07/16/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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quiver said:
:lol: is all i can say to that flame

try to expand your little mind and see the bigger picture and get back to me in a year or so




Hurting people is never right. Period. Even if it's in retaliation for something deserving, it's still wrong even if you can rationalize it. It's why I don't support the death penalty. That and the system is far from infallible.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: unbeliever]
    #5864966 - 07/16/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i never said it was right
sometimes we have no choice in the matter and sometimes your attackers/abusers know that and hope and expect you not to fight and the harrasment can be endless till there comes a crunch


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: quiver]
    #5864990 - 07/16/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What I said went over you head. I fail to understand your way of thinking, is it that it is too much effort for a change or that you are satisfied and feel their should be none?
I am not attacking you I am learning.


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Re: Give it a try? [Re: youngirl]
    #5865042 - 07/16/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i didnt read your post sorry
maybe its just the way i am but i've tried being nice and have been slapped in the face more than enough

i know violence breeds violence but then again i know some people don't care whether it does or not and commit violent acts upon you regardless.i spose i'm trying to say some people want to hurt you whether you believe in violence or not and they'll try too

i'm going by my own experience

what should i do...lay down and let them beat me for their own feelings sake?
let them feel sad and guilty after theyve kill me so they'll realize "hey guys,we shouldnt have done that to him,he was anti-violent"?


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