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OfflinePhishe
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LSD Legal?
    #5863567 - 07/15/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've done much searching and can't find a clear answer on where LSD is legal.

Is there a country in which LSD is legal or distributed?

Thanks.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863576 - 07/15/06 11:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think Russia decriminalised it or made it outright legal some months ago, but I could be wrong. :justdontknow:


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863621 - 07/15/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863624 - 07/15/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was under the impression that Lysergic Acid Diethylamide is illegal under UN statutes and therefore technically illegal everywhere. Much like how marijuana is still illegal in the US even if a state decriminalizes it, it is still illegal under federal statues.

Good question, think ill look it up to expand my own knowledge next chance I have.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Gratos]
    #5863675 - 07/16/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

snyder, i've looked at that erowid page, I just dont understand what all the different schedules mean!


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863781 - 07/16/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

mexico just legalized small amounts for personal use. think it might be legal in the amazon, who knows lol


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #5863814 - 07/16/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's illegal everywhere. I don't consider something legal until it's openly sold and taken.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5865525 - 07/16/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

TO MEXICO!!!


Seriously though bad news:
http://politicalphysics.com/node/1606


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Gratos]
    #5865542 - 07/16/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I thought the Mexican congress shut down their presidents effort to decriminalize everything in small personal-use quantities.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5865801 - 07/16/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Entropymancer said:
I thought the Mexican congress shut down their presidents effort to decriminalize everything in small personal-use quantities.




That's what I heard.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: ekornmeyer]
    #5865835 - 07/16/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

they did because bush pressured them into doing so.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #13197231 - 09/14/10 11:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It appears that Portugal is the only place you can really get away with it. I suppose that's a rather small amount, but is it there? Can I move there and buy it? :wink:

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Effective July 2001, personal use of LSD was decriminalized by Law 30/2000 (see text of law). Possession of less than 500 ug is not regarded as a criminal offense, though the substance is liable to be seized and the possessor can be referred to mandatory treatment. Sale, or possession of quantities greater than the personal possession limit, are criminal offenses punishable by jail time.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: SloppyGoat]
    #13197573 - 09/15/10 01:41 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SloppyGoat said:
It appears that Portugal is the only place you can really get away with it. I suppose that's a rather small amount, but is it there? Can I move there and buy it? :wink:

Portugal #
Effective July 2001, personal use of LSD was decriminalized by Law 30/2000 (see text of law). Possession of less than 500 ug is not regarded as a criminal offense, though the substance is liable to be seized and the possessor can be referred to mandatory treatment. Sale, or possession of quantities greater than the personal possession limit, are criminal offenses punishable by jail time.




doesnt a blotter paper weigh more than 500ug? do you would automatically be in violuation.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: SloppyGoat]
    #13197953 - 09/15/10 05:58 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SloppyGoat said:
It appears that Portugal is the only place you can really get away with it. I suppose that's a rather small amount, but is it there? Can I move there and buy it? :wink:

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Effective July 2001, personal use of LSD was decriminalized by Law 30/2000 (see text of law). Possession of less than 500 ug is not regarded as a criminal offense, though the substance is liable to be seized and the possessor can be referred to mandatory treatment. Sale, or possession of quantities greater than the personal possession limit, are criminal offenses punishable by jail time.




No.

Just because small amounts are DECRIMINALIZED, that does not make the distribution of the drug legal in ANY way, shape, or form. none, nadda, not one fucking bit.Every single drug is still ILLEGAL, except someone with a SMALL amount will not go to jail over it. Eveything is still illegal.  :peace:


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: DoseInTheWoods3420]
    #13197999 - 09/15/10 06:40 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, that's the way it is here.
Paper is weighed, not chemical.  You're fucked if you've got it basically. :S
I, too thought it was illegal just about everywhere.  I wouldn't go to mexico to have it either.  Not a good place to trip, imo >.>


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #13198002 - 09/15/10 06:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I can't remember where I read it but there was an article here recently that said mexico had just decriminalized small amounts of drugs in an effort to keep police from wasting their time on personal use so they can focus on the distribution networks or cartels or whatever. I'm pretty sure LSD was on that list. but you'd still have to find someone selling LSD in mexico and I can't imagine thats easy.

thats not to say you can go into a drug store and buy some LSD though. I'm fairly certain theres nowhere you can go that sells LSD in any quantity to the general public.  it might be possible far off into the future though.


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Phishe]
    #13198324 - 09/15/10 09:07 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Gratos wrote: I was under the impression that Lysergic Acid Diethylamide is illegal under UN statutes and therefore technically illegal everywhere.




I think this is the key issue. There is a United Nations treaty called the Convention on Psychotropic Substances. As wikipedia says:

Quote:

The Convention on Psychotropic Substances is a United Nations treaty designed to control psychoactive drugs such as amphetamines, barbiturates, and psychedelics signed at Vienna on February 21, 1971. The aim was to the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 could not ban the many newly discovered psychotropics, since its scope was limited to drugs with cannabis-, coca-, and opium-like effects.




This convention is implemented by the International Narcotics Control Board

Wikipedia again:

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The International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) is the independent and quasi-judicial control organ for the implementation of the United Nations drug conventions. It plays an important role in monitoring enforcement of restrictions on narcotics and psychotropics and in deciding which precursors should be regulated.




So there you go. Even if a government wanted to legalize LSD, it would have a problem because it has signed up to a UN treaty specifically designed to ban it. I'm not even sure if there is a specific mechanism for a country to unilaterally pull out of this kind of UN treaty. Obviously, if the USA decided to legalize LSD it would have the political weight to undermine the whole treaty, but it would be difficult for a smaller country to do this.

So does this situation also apply to mushrooms? No.

This interesting PDF contains information on the international legality, risk and health effects of magic mushrooms. It includes a quote from the INCB clarifying the international legal situation on mushrooms:

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“As you are aware, mushrooms containing the above substances are collected and abused for their hallucinogenic effects. As a matter of international law, no plants (natural material) containing psilocin and psilocybin are at present controlled under the convention on psychotropic substances of 1971. Consequently, preparations of these plants are not under international control and therefore, not subjects to any of the articles of the 1971 convention.”




In the Netherlands, this helps explain why mushrooms were (until recently) 100% legal and sold in smart shops, while cannabis remains technically illegal (although decriminalised and openly sold under a policy of "tolerance"). It's much simpler for a government to decriminalize possession of "psychotropic" drugs than actually legalize them. :coffee:


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Re: LSD Legal? [Re: Aldebaran]
    #13198339 - 09/15/10 09:12 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I believe you are allowed have 5 hits on you in the Czech Republic. Either 5 or 10.:thumbup:

Not legal to sell and probably not to take,just to possess.


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