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This LURKER needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance
    #5862157 - 07/15/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've been trolling this site for years. Thanks everyone for the info. Never really posted anything as I am a paranoid bastard (I smoke weed). I never contributed as I have nothing to contribute... I'm still learning... Right now, I've brought my laptop to a friend's so my ip doesn't get traced... (I know about proxies, and the likes too, but as I said I'm paranoid)

I've grew a few times... only cakes with much success (and much failures at times).. I was planning to do a bigger grow. So of course we had to do casing. I tried casing before (2 of them) and both of them failed. Not sure what I did wrong. I think maybe it was because I didn't use Verm. on the bottom but used casing mix (50/50 coco and verm.) and maybe the limestone had Magnesium in it, or I used to much limestone? Anyways, they both slowly died, the mycelium, never had pins or nothing, just slowly weathered away.

This time I used Verm. on the bottom... no limestone (avoid some problems until I get it right). But no pins either. It has been over a week. I'm using the greenhouse with coolmist on 24/7... the humidity is around 88% to 99%... usually around 95%...

Now I got a new AC but went away for a few days... I attached the water line from the AC to a garden hose but that didn't work and the AC shut off for a while.. so I had temperatures of 85-90F degrees for a few days.. but now my temps are at 72-78 always.. my temps have been constant for like 5 days, still not pinning. I'm getting scared I don't want the mycelium to die again. I wanna do casing.

Picture below.. I keep the casing near saturated.

Since I was new to casing I needed some cakes so I can have some stuff to eat incase I messed up again. I use to use a fish tank with hydroponic grow rocks with an air pump.. keeps the humidity up with FAE... And i had great success with cakes before... but I tried putting the cakes in the greenhouse before, and with the temp. changes maybe it couldn't handle it? I thought it would be enough humidity for cakes.. but maybe not?? The mycelium started to get fluffy, like growing to crazy. Why is that? Humidity too low right? I think my humidity at 100% didn't case that before. Maybe the crazy temp. change?? I also read that u should spray the cakes with water, i usually never do that... i never sprayed before until this run.. can that cause the problem??

So i moved the cakes back to the fish tank set up with airpump. cause I'm hungry and need something to eat. But the mycelium is still growing crazy...

Picture below....


lights are on 12-18 hours a day...

So now my casing and cakes are getting their ass kicked recently.. I NEED YOUR HELP... THANKSSSS

Maybe I'll start a log if I save them.

Conclusion.....
why does my casing suck?
why does my cakes suck?
what should i do?

recently the mycelium has been growing even more crazy.... even more than the picture!!


I wanna get up to hippie chicks level soon without the poo poo... (admirer of her work)


Edited by sexybudandnugs (07/18/06 03:12 PM)


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862164 - 07/15/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

no pics bro


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862177 - 07/15/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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sexybudandnugs said:

I've been trolling this site for years. Thanks everyone for the info. Never really posted anything as I am a paranoid bastard (I smoke weed). I never contributed as I have nothing to contribute... I'm still learning... Right now, I've brought my laptop to a friend's so my ip doesn't get traced... (I know about proxies, and the likes too, but as I said I'm paranoid)






your way too paranoid...

try relaxing just a little!~


you'll end up like one of my friends...

living in your place with all the curtains closed and too scared to answer the fricken door!~



read the teks to a "T"...

and you won't be having these problems!~



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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862752 - 07/15/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

BTW we have special measures for trolls so walk very carefully on those eggshells! :wink:


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: hyphae]
    #5862773 - 07/15/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think they mean "lurker" and not troll.

You might want to get that internet terminology down a little better before you end up insulting yourself again.


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: fastfred]
    #5862822 - 07/15/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862827 - 07/15/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)











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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: fastfred]
    #5862835 - 07/15/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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fastfred said:
I think they mean "lurker" and not troll.

You might want to get that internet terminology down a little better before you end up insulting yourself again.


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No doubt! LOL


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862850 - 07/15/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for the fast reply guys...

I could of swore i replied with the pictures i guess i didn't click the


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862862 - 07/15/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say ease up on your humidity levels.  That fluffly myce could be an indication of high rh.  increase your air exchange if possible, it can't hurt.  That high temp spike may have delayed pinning by reverting the myc. to 'vegitative' stage again.  give it some time, the casing doesn't look that bad, although it's not pretty.  keep trying and you will succeed, effort + knowledge = success.

ps, you're pretty safe browsing here, posting is really the only thing you'd wanna be careful about.

good luck!
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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862872 - 07/15/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

continue anyways button.. stupid me!! the pictures are on my gallery though

I meant lurker sorry not troll.. i'm a really nice guy.. don't cause no problem

I read all the teks and FAQ i probably could recite all of them without looking...

can't put quotes huh? i lost my post a few times.. this lurker is learning quick...

I can't sign on from a elite proxy so i went WARdriving to post this... lol.. told u i am paranoid ... i'm too pretty for jail.... i'll get man handled in there.. by like 5 of them at the same time... my body isn't built for that... i wouldn't be able to fight back

thanks guys for everything

the mycelium has grew alot more since the pictures... i don't wanna lose these cakes and casing


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5862876 - 07/15/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

looks like overlay on those cakes


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5862883 - 07/15/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i browse with a proxy... but go elsewhere to post....

my air exchange is pretty max-ed i think.. i run the cool-mist 24/7 on the green house and the airpump 24/7 on the fish tanks....


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5862886 - 07/15/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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looks like overlay on those cakes



LOL there's no such thing! FYI theres way too much water in that PMP! Drop that water level 1/2-3/4".


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: hyphae]
    #5862894 - 07/15/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

thats what it looks like tho :smirk:


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: esdfsfd]
    #5862898 - 07/15/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sure enuf :wink:


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: hyphae]
    #5866820 - 07/16/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

cakes looking even more fluffy. Haven't heard anything good to do yet. More air exchange? I don't think i can get more.

so no such thing as overlay on cakes?


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5866933 - 07/16/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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sexybudandnugs said:
cakes looking even more fluffy. Haven't heard anything good to do yet. More air exchange? I don't think i can get more.

so no such thing as overlay on cakes?



Again drop that water level and make sure temps are in the low 70's. You may need to make use of polyfil stuffed holes also.


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: hyphae]
    #5872993 - 07/18/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

YEAH! finally got my first casing pinning!!!! thanks guys... i think the temperature raised.. and postponed my pinning.... there are alot of pins!!! looks like it's gonna be a good run...

I took 5 cakes that had crazy mycelium and decided to turn them into case. When i was separating the cakes it had very hard mycelium like plastic.... Is that overlay? I thought cakes don't have overlay?

I'll post pics soon of my pinned casing! I'm so happy!! I'll Have a harvest after all!

I'm gonna post an invention I had for a while, maybe Help the community. The super reservoir for my cool mist.. it can store up to 35g !!! lol.... look out for a new thread soon

also I guess i'll have a log of this grow to help people with similar problems with pinning like myself.

One more thing... lol....

I heard u can DUNK casings.... Was reading hippie chick she takes weights and stuff.... so u just fill up the whole container with water?? wouldn't that get the verm. really wet? do u do it as long as cakes (18hrs)?? anyone got a good tutorial/link on how to dunk casings???

thanks guys.. u are the greatest!! love the community... like the great community overgrow once had... *tear tear*


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5873191 - 07/18/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Nice grow :smile:  You're the nicest troll I know :P

Glad shit worked out.  Dunking cakes is when you submerge the cakes underwater for 24 hours to improve flushes.  Haven't done it myself though, so just check the teks.


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: va_shroomer]
    #5873918 - 07/18/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

va_shroomer.. i know how to dunk cakes I always do that. I even do it before the first run of the cakes... but the dunking casings?? i know Hippie Chick does it... just wondering if anyone knows of a good thread that teaches how to dunk CASINGS... I'll check the teks again... don't remember ever seeing one.. but now i know what to look for now that I have casings!!!

This is the pins on the casing how do they look? oh yeah.. they are like 2 days old



Took the crazy growing mycelium cakes and made some cakes. How's the ratio?? I think i should of cut back on the casing? Is it okay though?



Edited by sexybudandnugs (07/18/06 03:19 PM)


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5888197 - 07/22/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

casing not doing so good... i don't think the mushrooms are suppose to look like this... the tops are getting brown and growth is really slow... a few mutations (probably from cleaning the pan with alcohol)...

here are some pics and suggestions???

temps are mid 70's.... humidity is... 95% ish....

I just redid my cool mist so now it gets more FAE.... before pumps were sorta going through too much turns to work..





thanks guys


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5888214 - 07/22/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

EEK! what the fuck is that thing!!!!???


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    #5888243 - 07/22/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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    #5888246 - 07/22/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Wow! I say more FAE!

Never had em look like that before so..my opinion doesn't hold much weight.


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    #5888289 - 07/22/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, those things are fuckin nasty lookin


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    #5888654 - 07/22/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

hahaha those look so fucked up


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    #5888819 - 07/22/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

those look freekin nasty!
FAE for sure, maybe less humidity!


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    #5888924 - 07/22/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

LOL... finally some constructive criticism ... i know they look nasty.. i'll try to lessen the humidity.. see what happens... more ideas are greatly appreciated...

they do look nasty but i'm trying to make them look good...

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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5888938 - 07/22/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Fat ass mushrooms like yours are from either high humidity or a substrate that is too wet... Try holding off on spraying for a little while, and fan a lot more often, try fanning for 1-2 minutes every 2 hours... Wow, i haven't seen shrooms that bad in a very long time :P


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: liamtheloser]
    #5894180 - 07/24/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

they got a little better...
what do u think? I made better FAE and alot less water... i guess the new shrooms are like like the 2nd flush. They still aren't as good as my cakes shrooms.. but i guess time and experience... let me get some feed back... how are the new shrooms looking

anyone know what cubes they are??






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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5894223 - 07/24/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Looking better now.

My friend had the same ugly shrooms due to a wet casing - many aborts also. I would turn off the mist for a few days at least.

Good luck.


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    #5894226 - 07/24/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

umm

those don't look like cubes at all

i dont know if they're just deformed/mutated to all hell or what, but that doesn't look right.

that could explain all the wierd growth and confusion... you might be growing something completely different than you thought. where did you get your spores? did those cakes you posted earlier fruit? what did those turn out looking like?


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    #5894228 - 07/24/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, the fuzzy myc is from high temps combined with really high humidity.  Just make sure that you lower the temps in that FC, and provide plenty of FAE.

What strain is that BTW?

Edit: As I take a good look at those pics again, I think that I can actually feel the mushrooms' pain. :sad:


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    #5898624 - 07/25/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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umm

those don't look like cubes at all

i dont know if they're just deformed/mutated to all hell or what, but that doesn't look right.

that could explain all the wierd growth and confusion... you might be growing something completely different than you thought. where did you get your spores? did those cakes you posted earlier fruit? what did those turn out looking like?




those are actually cubes.. i brought at spores101... i think either Penis envy, equadorian, puerto rican or something else.. i brought a four pack... HOWEVER, they look like non of them... the first ugly mushrooms don't even look like the 2nd batch of ugly mushrooms.... and the 2nd ugly batch don't even look like cubes.. so i don't know...

those cakes that i had i crumbled and tried to make a casing for... one of them hasn't started to grow mycelium.. but the other one did.... growing really slow though... doesn't look to good though..

I just dunked 7 cakes today... i might just case 3 of them.... to try again... and cake 4 of them to get some prints, and LC for the future...

I will succeed with casing... one day...


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: sexybudandnugs]
    #5898637 - 07/25/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

have you eaten some of them yet? those look strikingly similar to some kind of oyster mushroom.


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Re: This Troll needs help ASAP.. thanks in advance [Re: Arrakis]
    #5898640 - 07/25/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, the fuzzy myc is from high temps combined with really high humidity.  Just make sure that you lower the temps in that FC, and provide plenty of FAE.

What strain is that BTW?

Edit: As I take a good look at those pics again, I think that I can actually feel the mushrooms' pain. :sad:




i put my greenhouse 2hours on.. 2 hours off.. try to get humidity of 80 to 90% for my casing.. with good FAE... so they look better.... don't look like cubes yet though... LOL

I wish i knew what strain they were.. they are so deformed i can't tell if they are cubes (even though they are.. i only ordered cubes from spores101, and i birth successful cakes from the same syringe before)

FEEL THE MUSHROOMS PAIN??? how about my pain... i put so much $, time, effort....
I'm learning alot so it's no big deal.. but i wish i could cherish the FRUITS of my LABOR... if i had any fruits.... oh well.. wish me lucks..

This will probably be my natural co2 for the plants that i am setting up

thanks for the reply guys.. i'll keep u posted... BTW.. i'm very bad luck....


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    #5899291 - 07/25/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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have you eaten some of them yet? those look strikingly similar to some kind of oyster mushroom.




they do look like oyster.. but the first run doesn't... i think it's just mutations.. i should be cubes.. since the spores where cubes.. and i used the same syringe and got cubes before...


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    #5899670 - 07/25/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

could be a contam mushroom... *shrug*

2 on 2 off is probably why they're so retarded looking.

try 15 on, 30 off... try to keep the on interval just right to maintain humidity... because you're probably DRENCHING the shrooms every time its on for 2 hours.


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    #5904770 - 07/27/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

2 on and off ... i turned it down...

It was on 24/7 before...

then i followed hippie chick.. 2 and 1/2 hours on... 1/2 off....

but now i did 2 on 2 off.. i'll probably do 1/2 on 1/2 off.. but i lost the pins to the timer.. have to get a new timer...

the 'oyster' mushrooms are looking big btw


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    #5909710 - 07/28/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking... there is a possibility that i mixed to different strains in the casing.. a small possibility... maybe that can be a new strain of them mixing.. hence, the small pins in the beginning?


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I was thinking... there is a possibility that i mixed to different strains in the casing.. a small possibility... maybe that can be a new strain of them mixing.. hence, the small pins in the beginning?



nope


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