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Offlinewhy_not_me
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could it be true?!
    #5861545 - 07/15/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

ok ive done no research because im lazy, but i was on a vendor website. i dont think it was a sponsor but i found it in a thread on here.. it said they will not ship salvia products to NY!? did they pass a new law or something, or is this website just watching their ass? im worried because that'll mean no more salvia. someone verify this for me please


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: why_not_me]
    #5861592 - 07/15/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yea...some states have banned salvia


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: imtank]
    #5861597 - 07/15/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Deleware, Louasiana, Missouri, New Jersey, New York and Tennessee


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: imtank]
    #5861680 - 07/15/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Any reason other than it scaring the shit out of some people?


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: Phishe]
    #5861735 - 07/15/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

becuase, unlike tabacco, salvia producers dont give billions of dollars to gov't...scratch my back....


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: Phishe]
    #5861921 - 07/15/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It has alot to do with that kid that committed suicide...and then the parents blamed it on salvia. I think he was from NJ.


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5861927 - 07/15/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

^ yeah chet or something.. yeah the kid had been doin salvia and then commited suicide by sitting in a small tent with a charcol grill.

whatta douche.. had to go ruin it for all of us, eh?


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5861937 - 07/15/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously... what the fuck. I have some sympathy for the kid but the parents man...


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5861941 - 07/15/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i guess the goverments gonna ban depressing music and chicks that break up with people too...


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Re: could it be true?! [Re: imtank]
    #5861965 - 07/15/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

As the exposure of salvia becomes more mainstream, and idiots continue to abuse this plant, you're going to see more and more states/countries banning Her. Certainly the U.S. is pretty close to doing so, IMHO. Too bad.
Stock up now, as the price will skyrocket once it does! I have :naughty:


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Re: Salvia Law in New York State [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5862217 - 07/15/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Folks,

I hope they haven't criminalized salvia yet, in New York State. I don't think so, and the Legislature went home for recess, so we may be safe from their "protection" for a few more months.

A search at the New York State Legislative Information Web Site, at the following address:

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/frmload.cgi?MENU-37801767

Run Date: 07/15/06 05:54 PM

Summary below: three bills. None, apparently moved past the "economic development" committee. New York State is famous for its "dysfunctional" legislature, but perhaps this is an example of when it is beneficial to have incompetents in office. The salvia bills seem to have gotten pigeonholed in committee.

If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.


************** LIST OF THREE BILLS AFFECTING SALVIA IN NEW YORK STATE ************

Bill No.
A4412A Heastie -- Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state
A11469 O'Donnell -- Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state
S4987A FLANAGAN -- Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state


************ BELOW IS THE STATUS OF THOSE THREE BILLS ***********

STATUS:
A4412-A Heastie
Penal Law
TITLE....Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state

02/10/05 referred to economic development
05/13/05 amend (t) and recommit to economic development
05/13/05 print number 4412a
01/04/06 referred to economic development

STATUS:
A11469 O'Donnell
General Business Law
TITLE....Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state

05/23/06 referred to economic development

STATUS:
S4987-A FLANAGAN
General Business Law
TITLE....Prohibits the sale of salvia divinorum to persons in New York state

04/18/05 REFERRED TO CONSUMER PROTECTION
05/24/05 1ST REPORT CAL.1183
05/25/05 2ND REPORT CAL.
05/31/05 ADVANCED TO THIRD READING
06/06/05 PASSED SENATE
06/06/05 DELIVERED TO ASSEMBLY
06/06/05 referred to economic development
01/04/06 died in assembly
01/04/06 returned to senate
01/04/06 REFERRED TO CONSUMER PROTECTION
02/16/06 AMEND AND RECOMMIT TO CONSUMER PROTECTION
02/16/06 PRINT NUMBER 4987A
04/04/06 1ST REPORT CAL.633
04/05/06 2ND REPORT CAL.
04/10/06 ADVANCED TO THIRD READING
04/11/06 PASSED SENATE
04/11/06 DELIVERED TO ASSEMBLY
04/11/06 referred to economic development


***** SUMMARY *******

Looks like none of them have been passed on to Governor Pataki for Signature. Let's hope they don't. At least, as I understand it, the bills seem to focus on "sales" of salvia, and not possession or cultivation, but I haven't read the full text of all three bills lately. What a fucking stupid society -- we push drugs that make people stupid, fat, lazy, and cause lung cancer, and throw people in prison for using magic plants. Fucking idiots.


Peace


Edited by BobHumboldt (07/15/06 04:12 PM)


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Re: Salvia Law in New York State [Re: why_not_me]
    #5862230 - 07/15/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I tried ordering a large amount of Salvia for safekeeping before it was banned in my state. They wouldn't ship it to me, understandably so to cover their asses, even at one month before the law went into effect.

Get some plants. You can share the love and knowledge that way too.


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Re: Salvia Law in New York State [Re: demiu5]
    #5862986 - 07/15/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder, would one be able to order a plant if they lived in an effected state that's considering a bill?


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