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OfflineHarmonic_Order
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
    #5863778 - 07/16/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Geeyod. Damn.
What a train wreck.
Sorry you had to get messed up in all this.
How awful for everybody involved.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: Harmonic_Order]
    #5863795 - 07/16/06 12:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No doubt! This thread fucked my whole head up!:sad:

Jesus!


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Gratos]
    #5863805 - 07/16/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see how you could blame the dog or instantly call it a deadly animal.

Take any dog, a stranger, and a cabbage patch kid. Have the stranger dance around in front of the dog while waving the doll around and then suddenly drop the doll on the floor in front of the dog. Chances are the dog is gonna bite the doll.

And I'm not sure about lsd, especially with whatever dose they were doing, but I've tripped on shrooms a few times and some really really fucked up stuff has happened and i can tell you adrenline really over rides the drug. However, things kind of feel like a dream as if its not really happening which could be more of a product of the fucked up thing occuring. Like people have said before, I'd be surprised if they ever tripped again.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: d33p]
    #5863826 - 07/16/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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d33p said:


Take any dog, a stranger, and a cabbage patch kid. Have the stranger dance around in front of the dog while waving the doll around and then suddenly drop the doll on the floor in front of the dog. Chances are the dog is gonna bite the doll.





Especially one that was obviously irritated by the dancing. Like he said the dog let go quickly but with a Rotty and a baby it doesnt take much.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: d33p]
    #5863832 - 07/16/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Man, they are probably scarred for life! I would totally go off the deep end! Not that I would EVER trip or get real fucked up around my son, but you know what I mean, I'm sure. They suck, as parents!


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout] * 1
    #5863954 - 07/16/06 01:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger.

They took acid, with an infant in their care.

They walked up to the face of god and pissed in it.
For the chance to dance like idiots.
They raped us all.

Stupid doesn't cover it. It doesn't even TOUCH the depth of this treatchery.

SO needless. SO SICK. We should all go to hell. We are a damnable culture that such choices could occurr.

well, my heart is broken.

To the poster, I suggest you look real hard at whats going on here. It's pretty easy to enter a situation, meaning to be detached. But when something happens. when something is wrong. and you KNOW it. you can ALWAYS intercede.
and there should be NO conflict for you to act when you know that the guardians of a helpless baby have just irreversably abbandoned their ability to be parents for several hours.

would you allow a baby to remain in a car alone on a hot day? sorry, that window was smashed the second i saw the baby. and if the parent says one word to me, one little thing, they are going to find out just how much momentum pure wrath adds to a physical expression.

Im a pretty controlled cat, very logical. not prone to impulsiveness. I logically make certain exceptions.
WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!

I can't understand how you can detach from this. But i guess thats just me. I might be wrong... but if I were there in your place. That child would be alive. and I would NOT be welcome back. Nor would I WANT to return.
I know this for CERTAIN.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5863973 - 07/16/06 01:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You're not wrong in the least imho. You said some things in that last paragraph I personally restrained from saying myself... but I agree they needed to be said.. Much respect to you man. :heart:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5863985 - 07/16/06 01:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Mitchnast said:
this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger...

WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!





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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
    #5864252 - 07/16/06 03:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

RIP little one :sad:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: quiver]
    #5864299 - 07/16/06 04:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

People are such idiots when they combine drugs and children,I for one hate children and I will still say that this is just a down right tragedy.It makes me sick.I know a guy who was arrested and lost custody of his son because his son was in the house when his girlfriend overdosed.He got charged with child endangerment and hasn't had his son since.If these parents don't get into some sort of trouble there is something really wrong here.But weather they get in legal trouble or not this will eat at them for the rest of their lives....Having your child die is terrible enough on any level,but having to watch it happen and feel responsible for it all while tripping hard on acid is enough to drive someone out of their mind forever.Jail or no jail their suffering is guaranteed.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
    #5864382 - 07/16/06 05:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is fucked beyond words. But to all of you that think the criminal justice system has anything to offer the parents which could be somehow greater than the hell they have now found themselves in, you're crazy!

Sometimes the law cannot help you, sorry.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5864500 - 07/16/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Mitchnast said:
this is awakening a wrath in me. a desperate, throbbing, anger.

They took acid, with an infant in their care.

They walked up to the face of god and pissed in it.
For the chance to dance like idiots.
They raped us all.

Stupid doesn't cover it. It doesn't even TOUCH the depth of this treatchery.

SO needless. SO SICK. We should all go to hell. We are a damnable culture that such choices could occurr.

well, my heart is broken.

To the poster, I suggest you look real hard at whats going on here. It's pretty easy to enter a situation, meaning to be detached. But when something happens. when something is wrong. and you KNOW it. you can ALWAYS intercede.
and there should be NO conflict for you to act when you know that the guardians of a helpless baby have just irreversably abbandoned their ability to be parents for several hours.

would you allow a baby to remain in a car alone on a hot day? sorry, that window was smashed the second i saw the baby. and if the parent says one word to me, one little thing, they are going to find out just how much momentum pure wrath adds to a physical expression.

Im a pretty controlled cat, very logical. not prone to impulsiveness. I logically make certain exceptions.
WHen children are REALLY in danger, I'm the fucking terminator!

I can't understand how you can detach from this. But i guess thats just me. I might be wrong... but if I were there in your place. That child would be alive. and I would NOT be welcome back. Nor would I WANT to return.
I know this for CERTAIN.




I don't feel any guilt about the situation, if that's what you mean. I went to the house to have fun and conduct a little business, I can't help it if some tards decide to throw their baby to the wolves. I was very high by the time they showed up and I had no idea there would be a baby present that evening. I also had no idea they dropped acid. No one mentioned this fact to me. So am I supposed to walk up to them and say, "Excuse me, are you going to be able to take care of your child this evening or should I watch him for you?" I didn't expect to be there very long either. Also, Fred, Jill, guy, and Kreg went into the back yard alone because they were intimate friends and had a lot of catching up to do (at least, this is what Fred told me). I remained inside and chatted with a cute Asian girl and waited for them all to return.

Sorry if I'm over reacting in this post, but I guess I am fighting guilt a bit. I was thinking that if I had kept an eagle eye on Guy than maybe he would still be breathing, but that's just my mind eating itself. This statement is a repost (for those who havent read through the thread and wish to say they would have been superman in my situation without knowing any of the details).


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: blissedout]
    #5864517 - 07/16/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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blissedout said:
No doubt! This thread fucked my whole head up!:sad:

Jesus!




mine too

i spent the first three years of my sons life in and out of a childrens hospital

the fear of losing him due to HEALTH reasons loomed every single moment of my life


i cant fathom  a loss due to such a fucked up situation

this story actually made me cry , and brought back all the demons i faced back then


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5864519 - 07/16/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #5864530 - 07/16/06 07:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I feel really sorry for your pain Crow, and Guy's death. This whole situation has got me thinking about parenting and how so many people treat it like a little game or something. I personally have made the choice to not even think about kids until I'm 30 (about ten years away).

Kreg and Jill were maybe a little bit older than  I. They used WIC to support the child, as they had no (legal, taxable) income being traveling dealers.

I think that until I've got myself figured out, there is no way I am bringing another, dependant human life into the picture.

To all the good parents out there, Thank you! Even if your kids don't appreciate all you've done for them, at least you've got them into adulthood.

RIP GUY :sad:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
    #5864538 - 07/16/06 07:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, the milk that wic buys is just as good as any other as far as I know. I can't see why feeding a baby milk purchased with wic vouchers makes someone a bad parent either.

Perhaps taken along with the "traveling dealers" stab it almost sounds good enough to print in a newspaper.  :thumbdown:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix] * 1
    #5864539 - 07/16/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!




So...let me get this strait. You don't think it's pretty retarded for both parents to dose in a backyard with a chained-up dog in it without asking anyone to watch the babe/telling anyone they planned on tripping?

I agree it must be terrible for them and in an earlier post I said that I don't think they should go to jail, but what they did was irresponsible, juvenile, shortsighted, and yes, retarded.

This understandably stirs up strong emotions, but I think any attacks on people who are saying the parents acted foolishly are unwarranted on your part.


Yeah, the milk that wic buys is just as good as any other as far as I know. I can't see why feeding a baby milk purchased with wic vouchers makes someone a bad parent either.

Perhaps taken along with the "traveling dealers" stab it almost sounds good enough to print in a newspaper.


Dude, what is your problem? First of all, how is traveling dealers a stab?! That's how they made their living? Should I call them consciousness-expanding merchants?

Also, about the WIC, they HAD plenty of money to support the child, but they wanted to irresponsibly siphon off taxpayers dollars to feed their child who they seemed to treat more like a toy than a little person.

I have no idea why you are getting so aggressive with me, jeez.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: MXNR]
    #5864542 - 07/16/06 07:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Someone please explain to me how this couple did anything wrong again...

Other than they were tripping when it happened...


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5864549 - 07/16/06 07:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Plus, lemme tell ya something. That same shit coulda and woulda happened without the fucking LSD. Was the fucking dawg on LSD? I think not. Would a couple dance in the moonlight with a new born baby with no LSD? Uh, fuck yeah. It's real easy to claim they were "tards" or that they killed their fucking baby but that's all just utter bullshit and none of you have any fucking idea what it must be like for them, and you should just shut your fucking mouths!




I'll admit I didn't read the original post yet(and I'm not sure I want too) but I like what u said here...I know I could take care of a baby even on high doses of lsd...I never have and I never will but I KNOW I could...so I'm sure these parents thought they could as well and really don't think there parenting skills even come into play when it was the dog that attacked(unless they dangled the baby in front of it)...the only way the lsd might have been involved is if the dog was on edge because he sensed that ppl were trippin...but again I haven't read the original post so I can't really comment yet


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! **Updated** [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5864552 - 07/16/06 07:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
Someone please explain to me how this couple did anything wrong again...

Other than they were tripping when it happened...




Read the above post, it's been edited.

In my opinion that's like asking, after a traffic accident where a guy accidentally hit a child and killed her,

"Could someone please explain to me what the guy did wrong...
Other than he was recklessly driving his car when it happened..."


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