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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Karen]
    #5862165 - 07/15/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree anytime i ever met a male dog on a chain he wanted to kill me. Well maybe not kill but yeah they are very possessive of their territory. That dog was prolly thinking the kid was some sort of competition or maybe just in "his" territory. My dads friends son got bit in the face by a chow gave him a shit load of stitches...... It happens..... sadly


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5862196 - 07/15/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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PinballWizard said:
That's sad how the mom dropping her baby isn't even the worst part of the story.




that was my thinking as well...that alone would get some serious,serious repercussions around here...

and i don't even like kids(honestly,can't stand them)...and am generally a very strong person in these type of things...

but i also feel physically sick ...sweet fucking Jesus,man...I'd like to think people are speaking out of emotion when they say the parents should be shot...but damn do i see where your coming from.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5862216 - 07/15/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

this is so fucked up, as a parent, i would have called CPS from the party, informing of the situation.....im glad none of my friends are such asshats...

also, could you please post the news report when it comes out...

peace


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5862262 - 07/15/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

OMG
I don't know what to say...

I hope you're not taking it to hard it sounds like you did what you could


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! *DELETED* [Re: supra]
    #5862270 - 07/15/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: soulcircus]
    #5862294 - 07/15/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

because they are worthless?


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5862310 - 07/15/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

:nonono:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Cowgold]
    #5862618 - 07/15/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I thought hippies always did drugs around their kids haven't you guys ever been to a dead or dead related concert?


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #5862661 - 07/15/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just because it's a hippie concert with children present does not mean the parents are on drugs.  :rolleyes:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5862677 - 07/15/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

fucking tragic. stupid fucking irresponsible acid eating hippies.

FUCK that sucks. :frown:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: shroomphunker]
    #5862717 - 07/15/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

was this in the newspaper? i'd hate to think a sick fuck would actually make such a story up


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: supra]
    #5862812 - 07/15/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

supra said:


also, could you please post the news report when it comes out...

peace




Yes, please do so.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #5862927 - 07/15/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't really have a problem with parents tripping if one of the parents or somebody else is watching the kid and is sober and the dosage is relatively low. There just has to be common sense involved. Don't play with your kid while on acid beside the vicious chained up dog! I honestly think I dislike your friend with the chain-dog the most...


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Wysefool]
    #5863158 - 07/15/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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**UPDATE**

OK, so here's what's going on for all who are interested.

First of all, Guy's (the infant) death is confirmed. He died from loss of blood in the ambulance. He was just too little and the wound was too substantial for his body to hold on. Although Jill did prolong his life by using her dress to slow the bleeding.  :sad:

Also, Duke (the dog) will be killed Monday. Apparently, when a dog is directly responsible for a person's death, it MUST be put down as soon as possible. There is no other possibility on this matter. Personally, I think this is bullshit. Even though Duke was a pretty dickish Dog, the incident did not occur in public and the dog was clearly antagonized/riled up by the two trippers (who were apparently dancing in the moonlight and darting to and fro). I mean, if I run into a guy's back yard and antagonize his dog and it bites me and kills me, is the dog responsible? Legally the situation with Guy is in a gray area and the dog will have to die as well.  :frown: i guess(?) that's for the best...

As far as Jill and Kreg go, they were devastated obviously. Jill stayed at the hospital with Guy's body (still tripping and totally freaking out) while Kreg went off with the police to answer some more questions (although it should be noted that Kreg didn't leave in handcuffs according to Fred, so I assume he was not under arrest at that time). Fred has tried feverishly to call Kreg's cell but he won't/can't pick up.

Fred was told that he had broken no law and would not be held responsible under the circumstances (being two acid-heads freaking the dog out and then dropping Guy in the dog's general direction). Fred does think that Jill and Kreg may attempt to take it to civil court due to the fact that they aren't speaking with him, but I told him that this is a long-shot. First of all, Kreg admitted to the police that they were both tripping and were therefore totally endangering their own child by their behavior. Also, Kreg told the police that Fred was just coming out of the house (bathroom) into the backyard as the attack happened. So Fred is pretty shaken up after losing his dog, guy's death, and the fact that Kreg and Jill may be pissed at him (for some reason).

As for me, I'm fine (other than just being disturbed/shaken by all this). I was nowhere near the event and Kreg admitted this to the police. They do not perceive any foul play in the matter and are treating it as an "animal accidental mortality" case. These are all things I've gathered from my/Fred's conversations with the police. The police say it is unclear yet as to what will happen to Jill and Kreg. And since we can't call them, the police told Fred his best bet was to call the officer who is handling the case at the start of the week (Monday) to get further details. I personally think it's a good bet that they could be charged with manslaughter. Definition of manslaughter (according to http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/glossary.htm):

A person recklessly causes the death of another, or acting under extreme emotional disturbance, causes the death of another, or acting under circumstances when a person reasonably believes the circumstances provide a legal justification or excuse for his conduct constitutes manslaughter.

But, due to some of the things the officer said and the fact that duke is being put to sleep, I think state may simply treat this as an "animal accidental mortality" case. I'm not a lawyer and have no idea. I personally hate the idea of anyone going to jail and it wont bring Guy back and I'm sure they feel terrible. What good will come of them being locked up? Well, they won't be near any children.

I'm also very curious to see if Jill or Kreg had a blood test done by the cops at any point to establish an LSD level for prosecution of a manslaughter charge. Also, could Jill and Kreg claim that they were insane when the event occurred? I don't know about any of this.

That's all I know for now.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5863194 - 07/15/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No matter what. This is sad on many levels.



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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5863213 - 07/15/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I can't even imagine what the experience was like tripping...my god...  :frown:

Seriously, I can't even fathom it.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5863224 - 07/15/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty sure LSD can't be tracked with blood samples.

This just makes me sick, though. 

If you're not ready to have a kid, and treat him or her like your only, DON'T FUCKING PROCREATE.  :nonono:

That's why we have a society. 

Simply reprehensible, adolescent behavior on the part of the "parents".

That fucking dog probably got more attention than their kid.  Now both of them are going to be dead. 

What a waste.... :sad:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: GnuBobo]
    #5863231 - 07/15/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do you think they mentioned that they were tripping to the people at the hospital?

Imagine going through that and not being able to come down. Fucking christ.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5863241 - 07/15/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, well, from what the police said, Jill totally went insane when she found out guy was dead. She refused to believe it and insisted that there was something someone could do to bring him back. The torment she must've felt... :crying: 

Also, immediately after the event, Kreg was pretty pissed at Fred and was about to get pretty nasty just as the police/ambulance arrived.

A terrible situation no matter what, but throw a heavy dose of cid in the mix... I think it's possible due to the trauma of the event and the cid, that they may have permanent psychological issues.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: MXNR]
    #5863243 - 07/15/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yeah man. Suicide watch probably.

And what about yourself? You gonna be cool, eventually?


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