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InvisiblePenguarky Tunguin
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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
    #5865016 - 07/16/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Right. But my statement still stands. Even if they dropped the baby, the OP wouldn't have heard about it and this thread would not exist.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5865018 - 07/16/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Dropping an infant is dangerous, even when a worked-up Rottweiler is not nearby. Even "dancing" an infant around too vigorously could cause Shaken-Baby Syndrome if his brain bounced off the inside of his skull.

This story might not have been shocking enough to post at the Shroomery without the dog involved, but it could still have resulted in brain damage or fatal injury to the baby.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
    #5865023 - 07/16/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well said.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5865028 - 07/16/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

*starts sending waves of "feel better" vibes to the family*

Seriously, though, it is our responsibility to outright condemn the nature of this situation for the benefit of others who frequent this forum, who might have kids or may some day have kids, who may take drugs and impose risks on those kids lives.

Someone in P&S earlier today expressed a thought that began with "when I'm driving on mushrooms...". Do you think stupid people aren't around to pick up on stupid shit? I have sympathy for the parents, but you know what - they deserve the hell they are going through. :shrug:

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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5865033 - 07/16/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree that there is no reason to trash the parents' characters in this thread. However, discussing their behavior could encourage someone else to think twice before they make similar choices, or allow their friends to engage in risky behavior while caring for an infant.

I can barely imagine the agony of losing a beloved child, much less the guilt of being involved in any way in that child's death. I feel compassion for them, AND I want to discuss the decisions they made which led up to a heartbreaking situation.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Veritas]
    #5865055 - 07/16/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I mean, how hard is it to put the little guy in a sling/wrap, anyway? He damn sure won't fall out of that! This shit is just fucked up! I dreamed about it last night, after reading about it.:crying:



RIP Guy. I wonder what meaning you had in this world, in your short time. :heart:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: CherryBom]
    #5865062 - 07/16/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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2 parents on acid = bad parenting choices.




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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
    #5865069 - 07/16/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Good point. But in a case such as this, an autopsy could prove the cause of death and I assume an autopsy was done just because the original post-er said the child died in the ambulance from blood loss. If a full autopsy was done the full extent of injuries sustained during the original fall could be determined; the child might not have been "fucked" after all.

And just for the person who said they could bullshit the claim that you can find LSD in a urine sample:

LSD stays detectable in your system for 8-24 hours. Most employers don't test for it, and there is an urban myth that you can only find it in spinal fluid. This information is readily available on the internet if you would like to double check.

And yeah, dancing around vigorously could cause SBS, but that all depends on how they were dancing.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
    #5865070 - 07/16/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Awwwww...nice to see your cute little boy in his sling.  :grin: 

Our little ones place so much trust in us...the least we can do is protect their fragile bodies while they are in our care.  :heart:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
    #5865072 - 07/16/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5865073 - 07/16/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Feel better vibes? Are you..kidding me? They are not going to feel better any time soon unless they die too in a freak explosion at the jail, or unless the world ends.

But I'll send my prayers out to them au gratis anyhow instead of sitting here on an anonymous webforum with you blasting them with the furious E-spitballs of clueless teenagers that can't think of anything else to do but assign some blame like you're writing someone a speeding ticket and probably haven't quite yet totally mastered the fine art of tying your own shoelaces.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5865082 - 07/16/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, I re-read what I typed and see what you're saying. I guess I am harsh when it comes to such preventable, horrible situations. I was trying to say that the development of the child would be greatly negatively impacted, dead or not, from the initial drop. The child's quality of life would have reduced, whether the dog event happened at all. Then, the idiotic acts of the parents would still be inexcusable.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
    #5865093 - 07/16/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

70% tragic accident
15% the fault of the parents for supervising their kid while drugged up
15% the fault of the parents for having their child near a chained up dog

Child neglect charges should be filed. I suggest about a year in jail for both of them.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5865097 - 07/16/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?



He definitely irreversably changed some lives, that's for sure! Everything happens for a reason, even if it's building towards ultimate chaos. I wonder what now becomes of the parents. Poor, foolish souls. I feel for them. We are all fools, but putting your own flesh and blood before a party/celebration should be top priority. That's natural instinct in all animals. Humans aren't any different. Some of us would like to think we were, but it's not true.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
    #5865099 - 07/16/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Young life is where a person is most acceptable to long lasting trauma to the psyche. It is revertible but its something that manifests over time till the person comes to terms and figures out how to fix it with self work.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
    #5865104 - 07/16/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I agree, Organic.  Whether he had sustained a severe (or minor for that matter) injury on said night or not, can one really say whether or not this might have happened again?  If there hadn't been a dog in the picture, the child might have just been scooped up like nothing had happened only to be dropped again later.  Or maybe put in an even worse situation on a different day.  There are multiple scenarios to consider, but at this point sadly enough, none of them matter :frown:


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5865106 - 07/16/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe he fullfilled what he came here for by teaching us the importance of good parenting?





That's DAMN tough lesson to learn. Lots of work went into that one...


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: blissedout]
    #5865108 - 07/16/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe they caught a communal vibe to the party? Some animals such as monkeys often share the duty of caring for the children.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5865118 - 07/16/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It would be nice to think so, but such wasn't the case, I don't think.


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Re: My friend's Dog Just killed an infant! [Re: Organic]
    #5865120 - 07/16/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Did I miss the news story link?

Surely this has hit the papers at least, I'm not finding anything on Google News.


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