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Why the fuck do we read these?
    #5860446 - 07/15/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

As I writer I reserve the right to forewarn you that this is probably going to be on of those pieces of writing that just sort of leaves you feeling like you were better off not reading it. Not in the sense that it's sick or disturbing, in fact it contains little if not anything in a sick manner whatsoever. I'm just sort of rambling over the thoughts in my head and I appreciate whoever you are for reading these, because it's funny knowing that the voice in my own head is probably read in someone elses head in some corner of the world, in whatever voice or accent you pose. My thoughts are echoing off the walls of someones skull... (that's a cool thought in itself)

So, where to begin with this?

Ok, well as I sit here typing this a friend of mine is quite possibly having a life-ending heart attack from which she is completely obliviously indifferent to. It's like she's just sitting there letting this motherfucker squeeze the life out of her heart. Like, she knows this could kill her and she would probably do something to fix it if she wasn't so fucking lazy and miserable.
Last night was spent in her company and she took, what, all of a quarter of a pill along with a heap of piss. Later on she starts saying all this shit like "oh my god... I can't breathe! it feels like something is squeezing my heart!" obviously having some kind of heart attack, whether it be mild or major in front of our very eyes. So everyone just sort of literally buries their head in the sand and pretending like it's not happening. "Yeah it's probably just the pill... it'll wear off" or "she'll come right" and she was even saying that kind of shit herself. But, I mean, for fucks sake you're having some kind of heart attack, I feel like some out-of-my-mind acid loony sitting there saying "uh, I really want to call an ambulance for her... this is pretty fucked up". So we let her sit there and ride it out. I rang her about 5 minutes ago and she says she's feeling 'better' and a little 'clangy' but I dunno, maybe I'm just overreacting. I mean, I know 'morbid' is my thing and all but watching some chick eat herself to death isn't exactly my idea of entertainment.

She got a LOT of money given to her for compensation for something that happened to her a year ago and has since just whittled away at it on food, drugs (namely ecstacy) and booze. She has essentially fucked herself up by holing up with her friends and pills and just slowly choking the life out of her own body. So what am I supposed to do? Fuck, I'm officially a trained First Aider, it was practically my duty then and there to call an ambulance for her. So why didn't I? It was a moral crossroads of 'show you actually give a fuck about this girl' or just be like the other idiots and bury my head in the sand and hope she doesn't kerm up and die in my company. Fuck that. I'd like to give a shit and not be indirectly culpible for my friend dying at my feet while I sit there hoping they don't put me as her next of kin.

You're probably hating me for writing this as this is happening instead of calling an ambulance... and I bet you're calling me a procrastinating cunt and I hate myself for it as well but I feel I've done as much as I can except for actually calling the ambulance. I know either way an ambulance would be in her benefit. I guess it's just all a matter of if she wants or needs life saving treatment. I mean, I know she needs the treatment to save her life... but does she need the treatment to keep living her life? Like, does she need to be alive? Will she be better off dead? Am I kind of cosmically forced to sit here and experience another friend dying? Like.... 'oh well, this was meant to happen. She was unhappy anyway'. But aren't we all? DMV I guess you have to be unhappy or insecure about something and I know it's none of my business... but frankly it probably explains why you're such an emo fuck. Like no offence intended but I'm just being twice as emo as you are anyway but mleah... I think you get it in some way or another. Lindensmith, you too. There's something in you man... something twisted. And for now I suggest you google 'Mr. Hands Deep Thrust' and watch the video. With the sound. It will change your life. Lacy... well, I don't know... I'm not even going to pretend like I'd like to get into that skull of yours.. Gill... uh.. fuck, I don't know. What makes you a person? You just seem to me like this guy that explodes in off the street every now and again, spits out a few words that make me laugh and then smash your way back out into the world. You're cool and all, but I guess I just like thinking to myself about what ticks away inside those heads of other people. What is it that keeps you awake at night? I mean, I don't WANT to know but I just like thinking about it the process of it worrying people (not in a sadistic way or anything)

**Again, this is the part where you're like... "so what am I supposed to do? this is going nowhere... that's how shit is... cope with it"... yeah, this is true. But go fuck yourself I'm just rambling. I am seriously intendeing no personal attack or anything here... just thinking too loudly**


So anyway, it's a battle in my head at the moment as to whether this girl is supposed to live or supposed to die. If she dies, by fuck am I going to feel guilty and stupid for not calling for help. But caring and telling her I care is better than knowing I sat there and did nothing while some acid-loony leaped around screaming fucking ambulances all night. Fuck.

So anyway, random thought change here... (I'll go through and edit this some other time)

I feel like every time I blink I'm sort of opening my eyes into that 'other side', you know... behind the veil of the lies we tell ourselves. Like "oh well I've done all I can to save this chick". No. I haven't. I could call an ambulane and possibly save this girls life. I would be lying if I said I did all I can or I didn't care and believe me I'm scared shitless for her. But taking a different angled look at how life works and just what makes people tick and if she would really know the difference if she was dead or not. Would she? Would she be happier dead? I don't know exactly how miserable she is, and I know it's none of my business. But it's a part of caring. It's a weird way of caring, especially for me. Like. Fuck. God: I am asking you... the dude up there... saviour of light and all that is holy and all that bullshit... what's she gonna do? What are your plans for her? Will the world be better off without her or will she be better off without the world?
I think it's the latter.

So to my friends waiting there in the light with the halo's around their heads waiting for me to come to from my life like it was some huge acid trip. I guess that's going to be my death. I'll just wake up from life. Close my eyes and open them in a new world. Whatever it is. Where all my pure-souled friends are sitting there looking at me like I just 'got it', realised that we're just there. To be. Existing. Here I've been this whole time just trying to comprehend, contemplate and analyse it. And you guys have just sat there savouring it and enjoying it waiting for me to join you basking in the light of 'just existing'. I guess that's my curse and I'm stuck with it and you guys are stuck reading useless shit drivel from a fucked up kid like me. I suppose the readers just sit there lapping up all the literature we give them, they're happy either way. Knowing or not, it's all the same to them. But this is different. You are going to walk away from this like "well... that's that guys life and he sounds pretty insecure."


Well, to be honest. I guess I am. I battle with myself constantly. On drugs I battle with myself even more, and it's fucking retarded. The people 'behind the curtain' are just kind of 'waiting for me', to either die in physical life or get with the program and move on. Evolve. Become a human. Not some form of life crawling around the underside of whatever fucking culture we've created for ourselves here. But you guys on the other side are just sort of drumming your fingers humming along while I'm sitting here in reality coming to terms with myself and the world around me. Fucking weird, and I kind of have a good idea of where this is all going and how it's going to end out. I'm either going to die or be sucked into some kind of wild and crazy psychedelic oblivion from which I'll probably never return. Crazy and in a nuthouse or dead in a coffin, it's all the same to me. I still become a part of that huge steaming universally cosmic compost pile. Sitting in a circle with my friends up there while they say "well... that was life... you sat there and watched it pass you by and all you really did was write about it. Well, you got one chance and you blew it. Too bad". For me, at this very point in time as I type this... it is a very beautiful moment for me. Strange to you, but it's me coming to terms with the world around me. Previous psychedlic trips have kind of given me a backwards glance through that peep-hole into what's waiting for me on the other side after I stop breathing and my heart pumps that last pint of blood through my veins. But after that. It's game over. Zero. Just floating there wondering what more you could have done with your life. I know for a fact that death and dying (the instant of dying, that is) is nothing to be feared and is, if anything, quite orgasmic. The inseucirities need to be left at the door and just sort of step into that place you've always wanted to go. But that's the reward for being good. The consequences of being a jaded, bitter asshole to YOURSELF ultimately is just like being thrown into a bad trip. Accidentally eating about 500 hits of super strong acid could sum it up pretty good. The fact is that I respect people who have no fear of death, I wish I could too. I look forward to it, but I'm afraid of wasting this little gay bit before I actually die. I just don't know what to do with it and I've wasted enough as it is. Just embracing whatever it is we get when we are trouble and guilt free from the world is all I need to give me a glimpse of ambition or inspiration to go on and tackle the world. It's my fuckin ciggie and I've quit smoking for fucks sake. I guess I am kind of jealous of christians and catholics because in a sense, when they die... they die happily (as a religious entity I mean). They can go off to the afterlife thinking that they lived their life in a holy manner and followed the word of the lord and left without guilt nor sin. Sunny stress-free retirement villages are waiting for you when you get there. On the other side of death, that is. You will close your eyes, expel your last breath and all of a sudden come to peace with your circumstances and just embrace death. Let it breathe through you as it carries you away to whatever happens next. Probably more of this mundane bullshit... but I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

**This bit is a little personal and you, the reader, probably won't get any of it unless you've read my older trip reports**

It's an odd feeling and I guess I've just become too used to it in a troubling kind of way. I know that you guys are sitting behind there. That fabric in reality in the 'spirit world' where all that karmic shit goes on. And to the reader, YOU KNOW IT GOES ON! You're just lying to yourself in pretending it doesn't because we all know that shit happens. It's just a matter of balance and how much you let it affect your life. But I guess it's your business to choose whether or not it rules your life. Don't worry about me... I got in up to my elbows and am kind of struggling to comprehend how or why I did this thing called life in the first place. Holy fuck I'm talking to you right now. Yes. You. The reader and the shit behind the eyes of life. The people that can see behind the lies, the little things we tell ourselves ("oh, I won't eat this pill... but I said I wouldn't, but who's gonna know?") I mean, noone has to know... but you do. And that's guilt enough. And behind this little peep-hole in reality you guys are sitting back there like "yeah.. we see through it. Get it. It's life. Deal with it". Fuck. So I have to write this to myself as well? I have to write this fucking letter to myself telling myself to get it because I'm too fucking stupid to just move on with the other stuff.

Yep I do. It's what I do. It's what I like to think I'm good at. And I can still remember that little moment of clarity when my ego was shattered. I got a glimpse of what happens when I died. You guys are sitting there waiting for me to come out of my daze. Looking at me... waiting for me to come to. The concussion caused by the stupid decissions I've made and the wrong turns I've taken and the little detours through life I've made. Like the feeling of nitrous leaving your system. Everyone looks at you like "HOW WAS IT??" and you're like "uh... pretty gay" but they look so excited and you just ruined it for them by telling them what they didn't want to hear. And they sit there like "well... you got high... wasn't that what you wanted?" and you say "yeah, I guess. But I thought there was more to it than that."

Then that dumbfounding moment of realisation hits you.
"HOLY FUCK! What the hell am I thinking?" Of course that's what I wanted. And that's all I wanted. And then I get THIS as well. This weird fucked up way of thinking. This dazing truth. Did I really want all this? Knowing that taking that drug was a stupid and pointless thing to do? Knowing that when I pass on from this reality and into the next, you guys ('you guys' I'm referring to is the people 'waiting for me' on the other side of life... long story, you'll probably get it in the end) you'll say "well... that was life. Life was your drug. So we made life a drug. And gave it to you. Or more to the point, we sold it to you. We sold your soul to this drug. Life. And you took it. And that was your trip. So how was it?" and you say "uh... pretty gay" but they look so excited and you just ruined it for them by telling them what they didn't want to hear. And they sit there like "well... you got high... wasn't that what you wanted?" and you say "yeah, I guess. But I thought there was more to it than that."
Then that dumbfounding moment of realisation hits you.
"HOLY FUCK! What the hell am I thinking?

And it's that loop. The loop of life. The CIRCLE of life. Do you get it yet? So does that mean I sold my soul to the devil for these drugs? That decision was my breaking point? Because life is my trip and I'll come out of it sooner or later and just be left there. Dead. Egoless. Nothing. Or do I save myself now, clear my conscious and get to chill with 'those guys' on the other side of life where Jerry Garcia and Jesus Christ get to just fuck around doing whatever the fuck they feel like. Because they can? Is there still a chance? I guess God gave us all that chance to save ourselves at whatever stage in life we choose to do it. It's just a matter of doing it so you can get on with your life and stop going through the lies and moral bullshittery of misguiding yourself through anguish and mental torment. People have their own way of doing it I suppose, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Africans, Aborigines, Maoris, Chinese, Americans, Lawyers, writers, wives, husbands and people. So long as they're happy when they die. Guilt free.
The way I'm going it's not going too good at the moment... but I've still got the rest of my life ahead of me. I know I'm just wasting it away doing whatever is the fuck I'm doing now... but someones got to do it, right? Someones got to write this bullshit for nobody to read. I'll leave this open because I'm not dead yet, and I've still got a lot of pages to fill iny my own little book. So I don't know. Now I'm just waiting for one of you fuckers to even DARE say "that's life, deal with it. We don't care. You're on your own. Wilt and die or pick yourself up and move on. Your business. Not mine. See ya later." Well, maybe I just needed to tell myself that. But someone has to write this shit.

I'll come back and fix up more later. This was a pretty selfish post considering some chick is probably dying right now... but it all works in some weird fucked up psychedelic kind of way. So I'll just leave it at that.

You probably just don't give a fuck about anything I've just said. But I'd like to thank you for reading it anyway. Even the most horrible smelling flower still buds and blooms which is still a sign of life and hope. But that's just poetic bullshit.

Either way, I think with LSD someone stole a little bit of what happens to us when we die away from the actual process of dying, when they made the drug, that is. We were never supposed to know. But now we do and all hell is breaking loose. And it's weird. So yeah, I dunno, I guess that's my life and I'm figuring it out and coming to terms with it. Ken Kesey was right in a sense, for his own reasons and probably had a message to put forth. This stupid, whacky drug is just the hugest cosmic prank pulled by anyone or anything in the history of time and space. It's fucking bizaare and I'm grateful for sampling it and seeing what's behind the corners and in the shadows but we weren't given eyes to see it for a reason. It just simply wasn't meant to be seen. Perhaps if you're god or garcia or jesus or something you have a right and purpose to drop acid, but I'm neither of those and I've still learnt my lesson but perhaps it was better taken when I'm dead, instead of dying before I'd even put one foot out the door into life. Well, this is it. So I better get a move on.

But yeah, life's a pretty stupid drug when you think about it. But thanks for the experience. And no, this isn't my suicide note.

And I apologise for the tyrades of rants against emos, anorexics, barbies, rappers and yuppies of the sorts... I guess it's your life and you can fuck it up however you want to. I just think you're all kind of gay.


Edited by indica (07/15/06 02:12 AM)


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860530 - 07/15/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm

I enjoy writing as well. But you have to know your audience. This is an internet blog of sorts not a novel.

You summed up your whole point in the last paragraph or less and the other stuff just seemed to be rant and raving.

While you express yourself well, you seem to enjoy writing about ideas that you've already well explained.

Less is more.

With that, I too think Psychedelics offer kind of a gateway to death/ultranatural. Think about it it's not so illogical and "stealing" per se. DMT is in our brain and released during DEATH. A DMT component is mainly in shrooms.

Perhaps we are toying with out lives in terms of the supernatural.

I had a post on this in the philosophy section.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5860597 - 07/15/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah this was a blog entry i just couldn't be arsed typing it all out in shroomery format hehehe
but yeah thanks for the english lesson
I just felt like explaining it all way too much. Felt good to do it.

But yeah I still think the whole cosmic joke behind it all was never meant to be toyed with. We kind of opened our christmas presents about a whole lifetime too early with ego death/psychedelics. Mushrooms, sure. Theyre different but LSD is just something way weirder and more fucked up lol

straaaaaaaange drug, yessiree


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860610 - 07/15/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Eh sorry if it came off as an English lesson. Just most people on sites like these don't care to read that much lol

I don't like LSD either. It lasts too long. With time dilation 9 hours of tripping seemed like forever. And more intense visuals.

LSD Imo is for ppl who like ot see shit imo. I didn't feel connected to anything just really spacey.

Not very experienced with it but my friends who are tend to agree with me.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5860631 - 07/15/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i think it sort of puts you on the spot with who you are. More 'enclosed' visuals but w/e... i dont really give a fuck any more. it's mundane and i dont think i could ever enjoy tripping nor do I think i could get any spiritual value any more... my lessons' been learnt and i'll probably touch them again at some stage down the line but for now it's just like i'm kind of waking up to myself. it's weird. but thats what drugs are I guess


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860642 - 07/15/06 02:46 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What about a kidney dialysis machine. I mean if someone is having a heart-attack or O.D then kidney dialysis could act like a heart? while removing toxins?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860643 - 07/15/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

where did this come from?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860648 - 07/15/06 02:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"I got in up to my elbows and am kind of struggling to comprehend how or why I did this thing called life in the first place. Holy fuck I'm talking to you right now. Yes. You."-

Imagine

Imagine emotional highs and lows and then imagine not having emotions.

Imagine physical pleasures.

Then imagine existing solely with intellect & emotion.

That's how I see it anyway.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860650 - 07/15/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

xk3m_indica said:
where did this come from?




Reading your post.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860656 - 07/15/06 03:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Booby said:
"I got in up to my elbows and am kind of struggling to comprehend how or why I did this thing called life in the first place. Holy fuck I'm talking to you right now. Yes. You."-

Imagine

Imagine emotional highs and lows and then imagine not having emotions.

Imagine physical pleasures.

Then imagine existing solely with intellect & emotion.

That's how I see it anyway.




That's a strange way of looking at things but it works. Because when you have thought without your body or being aware of your body, it's a really grounding


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860659 - 07/15/06 03:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Eternity without a body, Eternity without emotion And eternity without thought. Heaven to some.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860662 - 07/15/06 03:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't that just non-existance of one and existance of all?
Like... never existing in the first place and being a part of that huge whatchamacallit?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860663 - 07/15/06 03:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking about a poem I read where the fountain of all-that-is granted your hearts desire.

Yeats?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860667 - 07/15/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i think ive read that somewhere.
but like, i dunno if i would have gone to the fountain anyway, i probably already have :P


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860673 - 07/15/06 03:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's the age-old question I guess about how one would like to spend eternity. Many would choose inanimation, oblivion.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Booby]
    #5860675 - 07/15/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i would choose that. but i dont know
that whole opening of the eyes into the next realm whatever it is.
curiosity will outlast all this.
its weird man... weird


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860678 - 07/15/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Oblivion could be an attractive alternative after one has been everywhere & done everything I guess .


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    #5860685 - 07/15/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

lol but you would never have been there.... so like... if u experience everything and then obliterate yourself...
but then its like having never experienced anything in the first place
oblivion is not really an alternative... it's inevitable


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5860704 - 07/15/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The mind is a curious thing.

The mind on drugs is sometimes the next best thing to Heaven, for some.


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    #5860724 - 07/15/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

for some. yeah, not me though. grrrrrrr it just pisses me off that it takes so long to learn it.
i wish i could go back in time and kick myself. too bad I cant. Anyone here got time travel going on in their back yard?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5861311 - 07/15/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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oblivion is not really an alternative... it's inevitable




Then comes rebirth and reforming again. The cycle goes on. Don't get stuck on a rung of the wheel, keep on moving and you will notice, you wake up many, many times. In fact, since you have started to wake up like you are, it will be much easier to wake up in the future. And embrace it, don't fear it. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is of nothing. Fear is of you.


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You are everything's way of feeling itself.

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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
    #5862107 - 07/15/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm new here and I don't know you guys, but I enjoy reading about experiences and I will say one thing.

It all comes down to ignorance is bliss.
Eve and the apple-
Curious people and psychadelics-

I think nearly every culture has some aspect of psychadelic use, and certain people are meant to use them. We have thinkers, workers, leaders, and dare I say:::Shaman?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5862152 - 07/15/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You put too much emphasis on LSD. What you are encountering is the cosmic joke. That has nothing to do with LSD and everything to do with us. In other words the LSD just lets you see how it really is, the same for mushrooms and nitrous and many other drugs. You have to look on most drugs though, however large doses of LSD and other psychedelics often force this upon your. But it is not the drug that is making you the punchline to every joke, that is the way things are already. The LSD just allowed you to actually see it. But honestly, take a step back from it and see life as a game. Too much dwelling on it can make you incompatible with normal people.

The life drug thing you speak of. Well, that is the cycle. All of life is a cycle. It is the wheel of life that moves ever on. It is one of the things that makes time seem to exist, but at the heights of really powerful intoxication it is a mind loop that is similar but different but that difference is negligable. I don't really know what to say here, except we are all on this "drug called life," in your words. So, somebody decided to do it, meaning I(You) made the right decision, how can we make a wrong decision. You have to have faith in existence to believe that last part.

Also, you have to understand that in the time(months) after a good trip, your emotions will be turned up. You will easily feel very strongly about certain things when in fact there may be no real reason to feel that way about them. Perhaps you should slow down if you see yourself going in such a bad direction. But honestly, many have tried to change their life into a psychedelic oblivion, few have achieved it.

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And it's that loop. The loop of life. The CIRCLE of life. Do you get it yet? So does that mean I sold my soul to the devil for these drugs? That decision was my breaking point? Because life is my trip and I'll come out of it sooner or later and just be left there. Dead. Egoless. Nothing. Or do I save myself now, clear my conscious and get to chill with 'those guys' on the other side of life where Jerry Garcia and Jesus Christ get to just fuck around doing whatever the fuck they feel like.




Man, what you have to understand is that you are already there on "those guys'" side. Life is the ability to do whatever you want in whatever way you want to do it. If you don't want to do anything, that is fine to, get stoned. The only other alternative is nothing, no experience, no memory of experience. "To be or not to be, that is the question."

Your paranoid feelings are just you jading yourself. It is all you baby. You are so powerful, that you have a way to make something called fear and hide behind it yourself while being scared of yourself at the same time. There are many levels of understanding of oneness. Some are anger filled and hopeless, desolate looking. Some are more premature, and you go through them on your way to really undersanding. Real understanding of onesness and our universe results in compassion, love, and more that all else praise for life and what it is and what it gives you. Look at those guys on the other side side or whatever your term for it is.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
    #5862852 - 07/15/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Every time I trip it feels like I am waking up just a little bit more. Ony my first experience with LSD I was peaking balls (2 mega strong hits. I redosed because I thought they were weak just before the first one kicked in) I was standing in the bathroom and the WHOLE fucking world was spinning really fast. I could hear my friends (who werent actually there) say "touch the door if you want it to stop" and I stating putting my hand near the door, and the closer my hand got the more then spinning stopped and everything was going back to normal. I heard my friends say "he's doing it..." and then for some reason I didn't touch the door and the whole world stasrted spinning out of control and I was totally incoherent. Then I heard the voices slip away like "oh well... maybe next time" really diappointed. They weren't atually there.
And every time it feels like I put my hand closer to the door to stop it. This report that wrote is de ja vu because I remember in another trip I saw that I was 'waking up' to that 'other side' and when it all stopped I was reading that very letter to myself. When I got to the bit where I was like "and I had to write a letter to myself" I looked up and all my friends were sitting there looking at me like I'd just woken from a coma or something, but all really disappointed for some reason. They were never actually physically there it was like I was trying to tell something to myself.
I dunno it's kind of freaky how all the trips I've had have tied into it in the same way in a sense that I feel like I'm waking up more and more every time.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5862955 - 07/15/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

btw innocence is ignorance is bliss


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5863592 - 07/15/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You should totally read this book called "Liber Null and Psychonaut" by Peter Carroll.
You would love Chaos Magic.
It's totally up your alley: you're living at The Edge not "the edge" but THE Edge
Well it sounds like that anyway
Life and death seem like nothing to you, and you have all these ideas that define your world but
you wonder, "This is it?"
Right?
I mean, that's what i read, I hope you meant to write that.
Man, you would be perfect for Chaos.
Hook up with others who didn't turn back and go to church, but went on and created their own dialectic with the creative power.
Combine forces.
I think they have IOT in Oz... pretty sure anyway...
That's my opinion.
I mean, in this zero-sum game you described:
you can go on tripping out in a dead end scenario, dead or crazy like you said,
(because basically if it doesn't mean anything it's just a bunch of pretty colors and off beat thoughts, right?)
or you can get religious like all the other crazies starting wars and acting like imbeciles
But alternatives do exist to those two choices
We could use someone like you...
You should read that book, I think you might enjoy exploiting what you have learned from drugs in order to better your circumstances.
Just my humble opinion, man, take it or leave it.
Peace.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: Harmonic_Order]
    #5863666 - 07/16/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

That's an interesting thought. Who is we?


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5863680 - 07/16/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You posted something about turning back time.

Hinds sight is always 20/20. Everybody has it, everybody wishes they could turn back time. But that isn't what life is about. My belief is, that life is one big test. I don't practice religion, but I believe in Christianity. If you fail the test, toodles, but if not, glory. It wasn't God's intended purpose for us to dwell on the past. Everybody makes mistakes. We are human. Humans make mistakes, that was what was intended. He wanted us to be able to make decisions on our own, and come back to him through our own choices.

Maybe my views on what comes after death are different, but I believe there is an afterlife. I think it's silly to think that you'll simply just, *not exist*. Egoless. Just, nothing. The sole purpose of life? To choose what you experience in that afterlife.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5864097 - 07/16/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Harmonic_Order - where do you think I'd find such groups? I believe everyone has their own personal god, or interpretation of god, or a god or gods. It's a weird scenario. I feel like I'm living on the fringes of reality and, well, the other world.. I don't know but if you could give me some details of where to find such groups that'd be good.

Thanks for all the feedback guys


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5864541 - 07/16/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I'll have to be the bad guy here... WTF is wrong with you... take her pulse and listen to her heartbeat. Does it sound right? Are there jerks in the pulse? I'm no doctor but that would seem like the first logical thing to do. And since I'm so concerned about this girl I went to webmd and here are the symptoms of a heart attack.
Symptoms of a heart attack include:

* Discomfort, pressure, heaviness, or pain in the chest, arm or below the breastbone
* Discomfort radiating to the back, jaw, throat or arm
* Fullness, indigestion or choking feeling (may feel like heartburn)
* Sweating, nausea, vomiting or dizziness
* Extreme weakness, anxiety or shortness of breath
* Rapid or irregular heartbeats

During a heart attack, symptoms last 30 minutes or longer and are not relieved by rest or oral medications (medications taken by mouth).

Sounds to me like she's having a heart attack. My personal opinion is that you should take her to the nearest emergency room, if your too high call a cab. I know you will probably ignore my advice but consider this. Your having a heart attack from some pill which you express to a group of friends and all they do is nothing. Instead they are thinking, "Like, does she need to be alive? Will she be better off dead? Am I kind of cosmically forced to sit here and experience another friend dying? Like.... 'oh well, this was meant to happen. She was unhappy anyway'".

I hope you see my point. Any normal person would be taking her to the hospital right now. What good are friends if they let you die? If I were you I'd be very wary of putting myself in dangerous situations with this group of "friends". I hope your friend lives...


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    #5867291 - 07/16/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the concern. She wouldn't let me call an ambulance and it turns out she was having an angina attack. I expressed my concern all day like "you NEED to go to the hospital" and when I had to go home (I don't have a license) I told her I would call to check up on her. I did so, and she said she was feeling 'better' and she rang me up every 2 or so hours to let me know she was ok and thanked me for being so concerned. Then she sent me a sms last night saying thankyou so much for caring you've made me realise a few things and you are a great person.

So she has gone to the doctor/hospital and she is ok.
But yeah I understand I sounded like an idiot saying all that weird shit while I should have called an ambulance.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5867522 - 07/16/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well all is well that ends well. Glad you took care of her. I enjoyed the other parts of your writing as well.


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    #5868075 - 07/17/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thankyou :smile:
I enjoyed writing it. It was a moment of recognition and it was almost as if I was a couple of moments away from 'waking up'
I don't know what it means but I guess I'll find out. I guess I have LSD to thank for helping me wake up, but it's only a small factor in the process.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
    #5872970 - 07/18/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Your right, it is about you, not about the LSD. People wake up all the time, some from taking mushrooms, some from a big whiff of nitrous at their dentists, and some just plain randomly wake up. It is easy to tell people that are awake, they are the ones that try to save lives or stop fights, not the turkey necks that just stare on and shrug their shoulders.


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
    #5876484 - 07/19/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it's not the LSD that's the problem, it's me that's the problem. But I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.
It's going to take me a long time to find out.


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