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mecreateme
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5861311 - 07/15/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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oblivion is not really an alternative... it's inevitable
Then comes rebirth and reforming again. The cycle goes on. Don't get stuck on a rung of the wheel, keep on moving and you will notice, you wake up many, many times. In fact, since you have started to wake up like you are, it will be much easier to wake up in the future. And embrace it, don't fear it. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is of nothing. Fear is of you.
-------------------- No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT. You are everything's way of feeling itself. Happy Schwag, everygodly!
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
#5862107 - 07/15/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm new here and I don't know you guys, but I enjoy reading about experiences and I will say one thing.
It all comes down to ignorance is bliss. Eve and the apple- Curious people and psychadelics-
I think nearly every culture has some aspect of psychadelic use, and certain people are meant to use them. We have thinkers, workers, leaders, and dare I say:::Shaman?
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mecreateme
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5862152 - 07/15/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You put too much emphasis on LSD. What you are encountering is the cosmic joke. That has nothing to do with LSD and everything to do with us. In other words the LSD just lets you see how it really is, the same for mushrooms and nitrous and many other drugs. You have to look on most drugs though, however large doses of LSD and other psychedelics often force this upon your. But it is not the drug that is making you the punchline to every joke, that is the way things are already. The LSD just allowed you to actually see it. But honestly, take a step back from it and see life as a game. Too much dwelling on it can make you incompatible with normal people.
The life drug thing you speak of. Well, that is the cycle. All of life is a cycle. It is the wheel of life that moves ever on. It is one of the things that makes time seem to exist, but at the heights of really powerful intoxication it is a mind loop that is similar but different but that difference is negligable. I don't really know what to say here, except we are all on this "drug called life," in your words. So, somebody decided to do it, meaning I(You) made the right decision, how can we make a wrong decision. You have to have faith in existence to believe that last part.
Also, you have to understand that in the time(months) after a good trip, your emotions will be turned up. You will easily feel very strongly about certain things when in fact there may be no real reason to feel that way about them. Perhaps you should slow down if you see yourself going in such a bad direction. But honestly, many have tried to change their life into a psychedelic oblivion, few have achieved it.
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And it's that loop. The loop of life. The CIRCLE of life. Do you get it yet? So does that mean I sold my soul to the devil for these drugs? That decision was my breaking point? Because life is my trip and I'll come out of it sooner or later and just be left there. Dead. Egoless. Nothing. Or do I save myself now, clear my conscious and get to chill with 'those guys' on the other side of life where Jerry Garcia and Jesus Christ get to just fuck around doing whatever the fuck they feel like.
Man, what you have to understand is that you are already there on "those guys'" side. Life is the ability to do whatever you want in whatever way you want to do it. If you don't want to do anything, that is fine to, get stoned. The only other alternative is nothing, no experience, no memory of experience. "To be or not to be, that is the question."
Your paranoid feelings are just you jading yourself. It is all you baby. You are so powerful, that you have a way to make something called fear and hide behind it yourself while being scared of yourself at the same time. There are many levels of understanding of oneness. Some are anger filled and hopeless, desolate looking. Some are more premature, and you go through them on your way to really undersanding. Real understanding of onesness and our universe results in compassion, love, and more that all else praise for life and what it is and what it gives you. Look at those guys on the other side side or whatever your term for it is.
-------------------- No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT. You are everything's way of feeling itself. Happy Schwag, everygodly!
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indica


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
#5862852 - 07/15/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Every time I trip it feels like I am waking up just a little bit more. Ony my first experience with LSD I was peaking balls (2 mega strong hits. I redosed because I thought they were weak just before the first one kicked in) I was standing in the bathroom and the WHOLE fucking world was spinning really fast. I could hear my friends (who werent actually there) say "touch the door if you want it to stop" and I stating putting my hand near the door, and the closer my hand got the more then spinning stopped and everything was going back to normal. I heard my friends say "he's doing it..." and then for some reason I didn't touch the door and the whole world stasrted spinning out of control and I was totally incoherent. Then I heard the voices slip away like "oh well... maybe next time" really diappointed. They weren't atually there. And every time it feels like I put my hand closer to the door to stop it. This report that wrote is de ja vu because I remember in another trip I saw that I was 'waking up' to that 'other side' and when it all stopped I was reading that very letter to myself. When I got to the bit where I was like "and I had to write a letter to myself" I looked up and all my friends were sitting there looking at me like I'd just woken from a coma or something, but all really disappointed for some reason. They were never actually physically there it was like I was trying to tell something to myself. I dunno it's kind of freaky how all the trips I've had have tied into it in the same way in a sense that I feel like I'm waking up more and more every time.
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5862955 - 07/15/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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btw innocence is ignorance is bliss
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5863592 - 07/15/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should totally read this book called "Liber Null and Psychonaut" by Peter Carroll. You would love Chaos Magic. It's totally up your alley: you're living at The Edge not "the edge" but THE Edge Well it sounds like that anyway Life and death seem like nothing to you, and you have all these ideas that define your world but you wonder, "This is it?" Right? I mean, that's what i read, I hope you meant to write that. Man, you would be perfect for Chaos. Hook up with others who didn't turn back and go to church, but went on and created their own dialectic with the creative power. Combine forces. I think they have IOT in Oz... pretty sure anyway... That's my opinion. I mean, in this zero-sum game you described: you can go on tripping out in a dead end scenario, dead or crazy like you said, (because basically if it doesn't mean anything it's just a bunch of pretty colors and off beat thoughts, right?) or you can get religious like all the other crazies starting wars and acting like imbeciles But alternatives do exist to those two choices We could use someone like you... You should read that book, I think you might enjoy exploiting what you have learned from drugs in order to better your circumstances. Just my humble opinion, man, take it or leave it. Peace.
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indica


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That's an interesting thought. Who is we?
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5863680 - 07/16/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You posted something about turning back time.
Hinds sight is always 20/20. Everybody has it, everybody wishes they could turn back time. But that isn't what life is about. My belief is, that life is one big test. I don't practice religion, but I believe in Christianity. If you fail the test, toodles, but if not, glory. It wasn't God's intended purpose for us to dwell on the past. Everybody makes mistakes. We are human. Humans make mistakes, that was what was intended. He wanted us to be able to make decisions on our own, and come back to him through our own choices.
Maybe my views on what comes after death are different, but I believe there is an afterlife. I think it's silly to think that you'll simply just, *not exist*. Egoless. Just, nothing. The sole purpose of life? To choose what you experience in that afterlife.
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indica


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Harmonic_Order - where do you think I'd find such groups? I believe everyone has their own personal god, or interpretation of god, or a god or gods. It's a weird scenario. I feel like I'm living on the fringes of reality and, well, the other world.. I don't know but if you could give me some details of where to find such groups that'd be good.
Thanks for all the feedback guys
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5864541 - 07/16/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess I'll have to be the bad guy here... WTF is wrong with you... take her pulse and listen to her heartbeat. Does it sound right? Are there jerks in the pulse? I'm no doctor but that would seem like the first logical thing to do. And since I'm so concerned about this girl I went to webmd and here are the symptoms of a heart attack. Symptoms of a heart attack include:
* Discomfort, pressure, heaviness, or pain in the chest, arm or below the breastbone * Discomfort radiating to the back, jaw, throat or arm * Fullness, indigestion or choking feeling (may feel like heartburn) * Sweating, nausea, vomiting or dizziness * Extreme weakness, anxiety or shortness of breath * Rapid or irregular heartbeats
During a heart attack, symptoms last 30 minutes or longer and are not relieved by rest or oral medications (medications taken by mouth).
Sounds to me like she's having a heart attack. My personal opinion is that you should take her to the nearest emergency room, if your too high call a cab. I know you will probably ignore my advice but consider this. Your having a heart attack from some pill which you express to a group of friends and all they do is nothing. Instead they are thinking, "Like, does she need to be alive? Will she be better off dead? Am I kind of cosmically forced to sit here and experience another friend dying? Like.... 'oh well, this was meant to happen. She was unhappy anyway'".
I hope you see my point. Any normal person would be taking her to the hospital right now. What good are friends if they let you die? If I were you I'd be very wary of putting myself in dangerous situations with this group of "friends". I hope your friend lives...
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indica


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: passitbobbie]
#5867291 - 07/16/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the concern. She wouldn't let me call an ambulance and it turns out she was having an angina attack. I expressed my concern all day like "you NEED to go to the hospital" and when I had to go home (I don't have a license) I told her I would call to check up on her. I did so, and she said she was feeling 'better' and she rang me up every 2 or so hours to let me know she was ok and thanked me for being so concerned. Then she sent me a sms last night saying thankyou so much for caring you've made me realise a few things and you are a great person.
So she has gone to the doctor/hospital and she is ok. But yeah I understand I sounded like an idiot saying all that weird shit while I should have called an ambulance.
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5867522 - 07/16/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well all is well that ends well. Glad you took care of her. I enjoyed the other parts of your writing as well.
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indica


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: passitbobbie]
#5868075 - 07/17/06 01:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thankyou  I enjoyed writing it. It was a moment of recognition and it was almost as if I was a couple of moments away from 'waking up' I don't know what it means but I guess I'll find out. I guess I have LSD to thank for helping me wake up, but it's only a small factor in the process.
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mecreateme
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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: indica]
#5872970 - 07/18/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your right, it is about you, not about the LSD. People wake up all the time, some from taking mushrooms, some from a big whiff of nitrous at their dentists, and some just plain randomly wake up. It is easy to tell people that are awake, they are the ones that try to save lives or stop fights, not the turkey necks that just stare on and shrug their shoulders.
-------------------- No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT. You are everything's way of feeling itself. Happy Schwag, everygodly!
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indica


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Re: Why the fuck do we read these? [Re: mecreateme]
#5876484 - 07/19/06 03:54 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah it's not the LSD that's the problem, it's me that's the problem. But I can't put my finger on exactly what it is. It's going to take me a long time to find out.
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