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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5860022 - 07/14/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Every toll road has an alternative route. They are very good for flow control, and increasing the amount of people who carpool.
I also think tolls roads are financed diffrently than normal roads. I know that toll road construction is alot diffrent than all other DOT construction because of where the funds come from.
But hey, i dont have any tolls roads here, so i cannot really have a valid opinion.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Vvellum]
#5860190 - 07/14/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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bi0 said: I am a resident of Chicago. As for organized crime being involved with the city government, I have not heard of anything that substantial. This isn't the Capone-era. All governments are corrupt, but I dont see the organized crime influence here.
Thats funny!!!!are you new to Chicago??? This news is about a week old.....
Sat Jul 8, 2:49 AM ET
CHICAGO - The convictions of Mayor Richard M. Daley's former patronage chief and three other one-time officials on federal charges are guaranteed to cast a shadow over next year's election, experts say. And that shadow could grow if federal prosecutors obtain indictments against City Hall officials even closer to Daley, they say.
"Most prosecutors work their way up the ladder — and if this case continues, they won't be working their way down the ladder," Roosevelt University political scientist Paul Green said Friday, a day after the verdict.
Former Daley patronage chief Robert Sorich, 43, was convicted of two counts of mail fraud. Two other former officials were also convicted of mail fraud, while a fourth was convicted of lying to an FBI agent.
Prosecutors argued that Sorich presided over a scheme in which interviews were rigged and documents falsified to hide that the city payroll was loaded with armies of campaign workers in defiance of a court order that bars consideration of political affiliation in awarding most jobs on the city payroll.
The patronage case was an outgrowth of a scandal over payoffs to city officials from trucking companies. Forty-four people have been charged so far and 41 convicted. Two are awaiting trial, and one has died.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060708/ap_on_re_us/patronage_trial
I'm sure Al Capone voted for Daley in the last election.
BTW what the hell is a "patronage chief"?
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
#5860443 - 07/15/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The adverse effects that Wal*Mart has on a community do not exist.
Do you work for Wal-mart?
Here's a few adverse effects:
Just as Wal-Mart exports sprawl, it exports bad labor practices. Uni-Comerce, the global trade union for commercial workers, characterizes Wal-Mart as “an obsessively anti-union company at home and abroad.” The company “builds its competitive advantage on low wages, poor benefits, and a squeeze on producers. Through predatory pricing, it can force both large and small competitors out of business,” according to Uni-Commerce. “Worldwide, Wal-Mart is the most serious threat to employment, wages, and working conditions in commerce.” The problem with low pay and unions is one of the main obstacles the company faces in its international expansion plans. The rift between unions and Wal-Mart, say financial analysts Fallstreet.com, is “intensifying with each global step the company makes.”
In the U.K, Wal-Mart’s takeover of Asda has had a devastating effect. Award-wining food journalist Joanna Blythman’s new book called "Shopped: The Shocking Power of British Supermarkets" published May 2004 outlines how: "I learned that UK supermarkets now jump to the tune of our second largest chain, Asda. Since 1999 when it was taken over by the biggest retailer in the world, the U.S. chain Wal-Mart, Asda’s strategy of ‘Every Day Low Pricing’, has triggered a supermarket price war in which chains without buying muscle are disadvantaged. In order to keep up with Asda, our leading chains in the UK must be ever more ruthless in the way they operate or else risk losing their place at the supermarket superpowers, top table".
This means that suppliers are squeezed, farmers are squeezed and supermarkets source from the cheapest overseas suppliers where labor, human rights and environmental standards are the lowest. Every week in the UK, 50 specialist shops like butchers and bakers are closing and one farmer or farm worker commits suicide. We enter a race to the bottom where everyone loses, especially the consumer.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: lonestar2004]
#5860451 - 07/15/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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umm, no I am not new. And yes, I keep up with the news. Your article has nothing to do with organized crime (the mob).
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: rod]
#5860541 - 07/15/06 01:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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rod said: Fuck the Targets, and Walmarts. Once they have run the mom, and pop stores out of business, ...
I just don't see whats so good about mom and pop stores. Most of them in towns are in buildings a generation or two old, so it's got hardly any parking. After you've found a parking spot, you go into a store that doesn't have associates that are given "product knowledge". They can't afford a huge inventory like a Walmart, or a Lowes, or a Home Depot, so they've got to order your new belt sander. The prices that the mom/pop has to charge you are a few bucks higher than the other stores. After a five day wait, you've finally got your sander, after you drive back into the city, find a parking spot and go pay for it.
I don't find anything about that model that would compel me to shop there. I can drive to a decent sized parking lot, park my vehicle, grab a cart, go in one store (often open long hours) and buy almost everything I need. Since I do lots of projects, it's totally likely that I'll drive to Wal-Mart at 2 in the morning to pick some things up. Not a problem at all.
So, if I can't get a better reason to shop at a mom and pop other than because they need their jobs, then I'm going to go to the place thats more convenient and has a better price. The logic of "Pay more so that the business that seems more 'people friendly' stays in existance" is idiotic.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5860672 - 07/15/06 03:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's called bait and switch. Drive the other stores out of business then ramp your prices up.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Alex213]
#5860868 - 07/15/06 06:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's called bait and switch. Drive the other stores out of business then ramp your prices up.
Yet somehow, despite years and in some cases even decades of other stores being "driven out of business" by WalMart, their prices never ramp up. WalMart continues to operate -- year after year -- on the thinnest profit margins imaginable, never exceeding 4% and some years dipping as low as 2.5%. Will we have an opportunity to see this oft-predicted rise in prices in our lifetimes?
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Alex213]
#5861017 - 07/15/06 07:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: Do you work for Wal-mart?
Why, yes I do. I do believe that would grant me a more relevant perspective on Wal*Mart's labor practices, as well - considering that I actually labor for them, and have had labor relations training as an hourly supervisor. 
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Just as Wal-Mart exports sprawl, it exports bad labor practices. Uni-Comerce, the global trade union for commercial workers, characterizes Wal-Mart as “an obsessively anti-union company at home and abroad.” The company “builds its competitive advantage on low wages, poor benefits, and a squeeze on producers.
Naturally, a trade union is going to characterize Wal*Mart in a negative manner, specifically because of the fact that that Wal*Mart generates a lot of profit and there isn't a union that is leeching that money for themselves. 
Wal*Mart is not obsessively anti-union. I have never heard of Wal*Mart picketing unions, or spreading anti-union propaganda, or making movies decrying unions. As for this obsession with being anti-union, Wal*Mart simply does not feel that a union will be benefical for the company or its employees, and so it strives to ensure that its stores and operations do not create situations in which the possibillity of the formation of a union will arise.
What that does mean? Don't treat your associates like shit, respect them for who they are and what they contribute, don't violate labor laws. Then there isn't a problem for anyone, except the labor unions which want their money. 
As far as wages and benefits go, I'm pretty sure that both are equal or above the average wages and benefits provided by any other retail establishment. Not only that, but Wal*Mart is increasing the amount and quality of its benefits, especially for part-time positions which previously didn't have as much access to benefits.
As far as the "squeeze on suppliers", I think that it makes sense that, when a supplier begins working with Wal*Mart, they are going to sell more and more of their product, and the supplier is going to need to supply more and more. Hhhm... I wonder how that works?
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Through predatory pricing, it can force both large and small competitors out of business,” according to Uni-Commerce.
That is to say, because Wal*Mart has a more effective business model, they do better than their competitors? If you can't play the game....
Where I live, we have two Wal*Marts (I believe they are planning on building a third in the next few years). There is a Target, quite a few Hy-Vee's (grocery store), two Shopkos (retail chain as well) a couple of Menard's, a few Ace Hardwares, Sunshine Foods (local grocery chain, at least two locations), a few other kinds of grocery stores, not to mention all of the other stores that we competition shop, and the only one of them that is going out of business is K-Mart.
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The problem with low pay and unions is one of the main obstacles the company faces in its international expansion plans. The rift between unions and Wal-Mart, say financial analysts Fallstreet.com, is “intensifying with each global step the company makes.”
Oh no, the unions are upset with Wal*Mart! 
Admist all of the labor union propaganda that is spewing forth here, please inform me as to why exactly a labor union is a benefical thing to the associates of a retail establishment such as Wal*Mart.
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Since 1999 when it was taken over by the biggest retailer in the world, the U.S. chain Wal-Mart, Asda’s strategy of ‘Every Day Low Pricing’, has triggered a supermarket price war in which chains without buying muscle are disadvantaged. In order to keep up with Asda, our leading chains in the UK must be ever more ruthless in the way they operate or else risk losing their place at the supermarket superpowers, top table".
Yes, that is something known as business. Those more able to compete are more apt to survive, while those who are not able to effectively do business are less apt to survive. That is business. Don't like it, don't do business. 
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We enter a race to the bottom where everyone loses, especially the consumer.
The only one that is losing is the labor union, and that loss is the equivalent of giving a dog a flea bath.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Phred]
#5861023 - 07/15/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Phred said: Yet somehow, despite years and in some cases even decades of other stores being "driven out of business" by WalMart, their prices never ramp up. WalMart continues to operate -- year after year -- on the thinnest profit margins imaginable, never exceeding 4% and some years dipping as low as 2.5%. Will we have an opportunity to see this oft-predicted rise in prices in our lifetimes?
In 2012, we will drop the Nazi banners. When customers go into the store, we will tow all of their vehicles. Our people greeters will pick pocket them, etc. etc. etc. 
Oh, and also, Children's Miracle Network donations will be mandatory, and department managers will have the right, agreed to by entering the store, to take customer's carts into the backroom and load them up with all excessive overstock resulting from the fucked up replenishment system. 
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
#5861043 - 07/15/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You post in P&S, so I know you're right.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: lonestar2004]
#5861419 - 07/15/06 10:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ive waited for this for a long time.. Other big box stores joining Wall-Mart to fight the unions... 
Forcing businesses to pick up the tab for employee medical costs just isnt the answer to the health care problem we have in the US. They tried that shit here in California but much worse. Any business with 20 or more employees would be responsible for 60% of medical costs for the employees. The more employees the more responsible the business was for picking up the tab, all the way up to 80%.
Overnight something like that could ruin an entire cities economy and force out all businesses big and small.
What the unions dont tell people is that each individual big box store dont actually rake in the billions of dollars like they want you to believe. They do make a profit but more like a million a year. While thats allot of money and sure they could afford to pay $200,000 of that each year for employee health care they just shouldnt have to.
These companies need high profits to expand and grow, buy more real estate and open more stores so that they can hire more employees and yes, make more profits.
Home Depot, Lowes, Local Grocers, warehouse workers, office workers, who else. They all could fall in the category of having to provide benefits and they will just simply relocate if they were forced to pay up.
Their is one other solution to Americas health care crisis.. Canadian citizenship cards for everyone.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
#5861459 - 07/15/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I suggest watching the frontline documentary "Is Walmart Good for America?". Here is a torrent link: http://tinyurl.com/ksf42
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
#5861712 - 07/15/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wal*Mart simply does not feel that a union will be benefical for the company or its employees, and so it strives to ensure that its stores and operations do not create situations in which the possibillity of the formation of a union will arise.
No shit 
It's pretty obvious that the employers arn't going to want something that gives their employees more power. That's basic.
Don't treat your associates like shit, respect them for who they are and what they contribute, don't violate labor laws.
If you respect your workers for what they are why be so skittish about letting them form unions if they want to? Or is this "respect your workers as long as they obey you like slaves"?
please inform me as to why exactly a labor union is a benefical thing to the associates of a retail establishment such as Wal*Mart.
I'm not sure who you mean by "associates", but unions are of obvious benefit to workers which is presumably why Walmart are so keen that they don't exist.
Those more able to compete are more apt to survive, while those who are not able to effectively do business are less apt to survive.
Or putting it another way, those who don't give a fuck about the environment or anything else will survive. Those who do, won't. I'm not convinced that's a good long term model to follow.
As far as the "squeeze on suppliers", I think that it makes sense that, when a supplier begins working with Wal*Mart, they are going to sell more and more of their product, and the supplier is going to need to supply more and more. Hhhm... I wonder how that works?
Trouble is the only way the supplier can supply more and more at the same price is stuffing the animals full of more growth hormones, feeding them on low quality food and using more and more pesticides. Not too good for the health of nation or the environment in the long run.
The only one that is losing is the labor union
And the producers and the environment and the consumers eating piss-poor food produced as cheaply as possible. Which means pretty much all of us.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: GabbaDj]
#5861723 - 07/15/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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These companies need high profits to expand and grow, buy more real estate and open more stores
You forgot "so they can give the directors enormous pay rises year on year and million dollar bonus's for doing nothing".
Tell you what. Just take the pay rise and bonus away from a handful of directors each year and put that towards the cost of health care for the workers. That's not going to ruin the company is it. The director has to buy a smaller yacht and the workers get healthcare. Simple.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Alex213]
#5861771 - 07/15/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: It's pretty obvious that the employers arn't going to want something that gives their employees more power. That's basic.
A union does not give employees more power, sorry.
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If you respect your workers for what they are why be so skittish about letting them form unions if they want to? Or is this "respect your workers as long as they obey you like slaves"?
That's the fucking point, they don't want to, because there is no need to, if proper working conditions are maintained. A union is detrimental to the success of the company, thus, it is also detrimental to the success of the employees of that company.
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I'm not sure who you mean by "associates", but unions are of obvious benefit to workers which is presumably why Walmart are so keen that they don't exist.
You didn't answer my question. I asked you to explain why a labor union is benefical to employees of a company. You assert that it is obvious, but have not actually demonstrated what is obvious or why it is obvious. You automatically assume a labor union must be beneficial to associates, but apparently do not even know what a labor union is.
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Or putting it another way, those who don't give a fuck about the environment or anything else will survive. Those who do, won't. I'm not convinced that's a good long term model to follow.
That doesn't make sense. As the environment sustains our existance, taking action that serves as a detriment to the environment will not provide for survival. I'm not sure how being capable of having lower prices than someone else equates into destroying the environment. 
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Trouble is the only way the supplier can supply more and more at the same price is stuffing the animals full of more growth hormones, feeding them on low quality food and using more and more pesticides. Not too good for the health of nation or the environment in the long run.
Then there is a discrepancy between supply and demand. Take that one up with the customers, my friend - they get what they want no matter who they have to go through to get it. Start a campaign of enlightenment targeted towards the customers. I'm sorry, but you cannot attribute unethical practices performed by the supplier as being Wal*Mart's responsibility. 
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And the producers and the environment and the consumers eating piss-poor food produced as cheaply as possible. Which means pretty much all of us.
No, just the unions. 
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
#5861792 - 07/15/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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A union does not give employees more power, sorry.
That's the fucking point, they don't want to, because there is no need to, if proper working conditions are maintained
And if they arn't? What the fuck do you do then with no union?
I asked you to explain why a labor union is benefical to employees of a company
Better working conditions, better pay.
As the environment sustains our existance, taking action that serves as a detriment to the environment will not provide for surviva
But it provides for profits. And corporate directors behind high iron fences in mansions will be the last to feel any suffering from wrecking the environment so I wouldn't rely on them to help.
I'm sorry, but you cannot attribute unethical practices performed by the supplier as being Wal*Mart's responsibility.
I'm sorry but you can.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Alex213]
#5861986 - 07/15/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: 
Oh, I'm sorry, I was under the impression that you were actually going to engage in discussion and provide examples of exactly how labor unions empower workers. Perhaps if you were to actually do so, we could gain some ground in understanding this, but if you don't have anything to bring to the table beyond empty assertions, then I guess we'll have to leave it at that. 
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And if they arn't? What the fuck do you do then with no union?
Well, if you work at Wal*Mart, you utilize the Open Door policy to address concerns with those above you. If you are not satisfied with the working conditions, then you don't work there. Oppurtunity is great.
Let me ask you these, what the fuck do you do with a union? Do you have an answer?
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Better working conditions, better pay.
Sorry, but those aren't exactly effective answers. A labor union simply cannot guarantee better working conditions, or increased wages.
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But it provides for profits. And corporate directors behind high iron fences in mansions will be the last to feel any suffering from wrecking the environment so I wouldn't rely on them to help.
Corporate directors that are interested in profits aren't going to destroy the environment that supports the customers that provide those profits, eh? Obviously, there has been short-sighted destruction of the environment, but the thought of human beings rendering their environment unliveable isn't reflective of the reality of the situation.
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I'm sorry but you can.
"Don't blame me for injecting cows with hormones, Wal*Mart made me do it!". 
Riiight.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
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BENTONVILLE, Ark., June 16, 2006 – John Menzer, vice chairman of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., will speak at the CIES 50th World Food Business Summit on June 23 in Paris, France. At this summit, retail and supplier executives will discuss new strategic concepts and opportunities regarding the overall direction of the food business on a global scale. Menzer will address the role of business in the 21st century, emphasizing that businesses can be both efficient and profitable while also selling products and adopting practices that are environmentally friendly.
“We at Wal-Mart recognize that being both an efficient business and environmentally friendly are goals that can work together,” said Menzer. “We understand the importance of utilizing renewable energy sources, creating less waste, and offering our customers access to sustainable products.”
Excerpt from a press release...
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: fireworks_god]
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Sorry, but those aren't exactly effective answers. A labor union simply cannot guarantee better working conditions, or increased wages.
guarantee? no. but they sure can fight for them and have been quite successful at that. some unions are corrupt, but that does not mean they all are useless. have you ever worked in a union shop before? I have.
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Re: Target threatens to leave if wage rule OK'd [Re: Vvellum]
#5862257 - 07/15/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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bi0 said: guarantee? no. but they sure can fight for them and have been quite successful at that. some unions are corrupt, but that does not mean they all are useless. have you ever worked in a union shop before? I have.
No, I have not worked in a workplace that has been unionized. I do realize, however, that a union might be able to secure better wages, but there are also a myriad of negative effects from being unionized. Mandatory promotion by seniority is common, is it not? I would hate to be an engaged employee who would lose oppurtunities for advancement because of a union. I've been employed with Wal*Mart for two years now, with no real previous work history, and I have been an hourly supervisor for months now, managing two departments of the store.
I also feel that the inherent divisiveness between management and employees is unnecessary and counter-productive for all involved. Voting in a labor union is, essentially, creating a new management that struggles for power with the company management in place. I do not understand how a company can be as effective in its operations with such a structure in place - naturally, anything that has a detrimental effect on the company itself has a detrimental effect on the employees themselves.
In my eyes, the only need for a labor union is when labor laws are being violated. Less than 10% of the work force is unionized. Wal*Mart's success depends entirely upon the role that the associates in the stores play in servicing the customer - Wal*Mart isn't going to create a negative work environment, as that would be biting the hand that feeds. Customers aren't going to want to shop in a store that has a negative atmosphere resulting from its employees.
A union certainly might be necessary in other fields or industries, but it clearly is not in retail, especially Wal*Mart. I've personally witnessed supervisors receive disciplinary action as result of associates utilizing the communication resources that are granted to us as an absolute right when the work environment becomes improper. It works, which is exactly why there isn't a union in Wal*Mart stores.
Unions certainly seem to think that Wal*Mart should be unionized, although apparently Wal*Mart associates do not. It certainly seems to make sense that unions would love to see Wal*Mart unionized. 1.8 million associates would mean an amazing amount of union dues, would it not? 
I'd love to be the head of a union, man... tons of money for being a business that leeches off of another business. Perhaps in certain situations, they can provide a service to employees that is otherwise not available to the employees, but, with Wal*Mart, that service is the absolute, undeniable right of each associate, to speak for themself, and to follow up with it if not satisifed as far as they wish, without retaliation. No need for parasites here. 
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