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Invisibleperuvian spark
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Internal Dialogue
    #5858010 - 07/14/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

From what I understand it takes a lot of constant effort to stop the internal dialogue. Don Juan says something about how the way to stop it is the same way as how a person starts it. You just have to NOT talk to yourself, easy as that...  :tongue: You have to will it to happen and eventually you gain true control over it.

I've been working on stopping my own internal dialogue for years and I feel that I haven't gotten very far with it. I'm aware of how I slow myself down with mental images and chatter but I still can't stop it for very long, it's like I'm addicted to it. I can also see how it creates walls between myself and the world around me. Sometimes I can't appreciate the true beauty of whats going on around me because I'd rather explain it than appreciate it.

Has anyone out there succeded in controlling their own internal dialogue, has it changed the way you percieve the world?


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: peruvian spark]
    #5858042 - 07/14/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i dont necessarily think that stopping your internal dialogue would eliminate what you mean by the wall between your mind and the world. i think i know what you mean by the wall and it seeems like when i focus on what im seeing and think about what im seeing and look at the details i dont have as much going on in my head


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: peruvian spark]
    #5858077 - 07/14/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

the ear drum can be heard from both sides

down/up
pleasant to hear the final sound
calming to remember it

up/down
pleasant to hear the original sound
calming to make it


some bells are struck in silence, some silence is struck by bells


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: Cherk]
    #5858096 - 07/14/06 01:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

stopping internal dialogue is the cornerstone of being able to tap into your powers


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5858115 - 07/14/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i did it a bit with mairjuana... just the subtlest buzz and then i spoke every single thought i had aloud into the mirror, including the random gibberish coming somewhat from the subconscious mind..... didn't matter if it made sense or not. it created a fantastic dichotomy which i could reside within and marvel at the simplicity of silence.

those good old alpha waves? when i had a sleep study done the guy said a lot of people don't ever make proper alpha waves... I managed to only once during the night, I had trouble staying asleep and was partially awake and froze my brain for a bit and I was like "yeah I bet this is alpha"

and I also silenced it a bit during yoga one day when i was instructed to breathe through my hands, and realized I actually could.

maybe about 3 seconds.


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    #5858169 - 07/14/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: soulcircus]
    #5858181 - 07/14/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

what i care most about is feeling present and connected in a meaningful manner to everything i do.

this would then influence the dialogue to be much more constructive.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: leery11]
    #5858357 - 07/14/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

its easy to do. Drink some red wine, good red wine.

thats waht they did at the last supper...

shiraz or merlot


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: peruvian spark]
    #5858372 - 07/14/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Here is a good place to start. Start observing your thoughts on a daily basis. Take notes at the outset to get yourself in the habit. Before long you start to become constantly aware of your internal dialogue...like you got a watch dog set to watch it. View these thoughts without judgement of good or bad. Once you start becoming more aware you bring it under control. It is a passive...not an active process. You will loose much of your useless internal dialog and gain control of the dialog that is necessary. This is a type of stalking...a passive but highly effective type. It will bear fruit in a few weeks if you are seruious and faithful. A good friend taught me this and it is a good way to do what you are striving for. You must slowly cut it away...but not push it away. Rejection is a type of indulgence.


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5858495 - 07/14/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It is a passive...not an active process.

Very true, I often try too hard.


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Re: Internal Dialogue [Re: peruvian spark]
    #5858571 - 07/14/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Just be aware of your thoughts at all times...passively aware. The changes you desire will manifest very unobtrusively at first, but you will notice much with time. The trick to stopping the internal dialog is the same as in meditation...just become aware of your thoughts. Another tip: The voice in your head will not tell you anything that you do not know...so disregard it. Most of it is lies anyway....so it is not important. Just check in from time to time and monitor your thought process...soon it is going on all of the time without trying. I do not mean create more internal dialog....just watch and be aware.


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