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World on the brink of War?
#5857714 - 07/14/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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This whole fiasco with Israel and its neigbours is all over the news; I'll assume that anyone in these forums is familiar with the situation. All the conditions were ripe for a new world war in the middle east for the past long while, and all it needed was some archduke to get himself shot (or some nerdy looking conscript kidnapped). Now, everyone is being dragged in around Israel. A single kidnapping by Hamas seemed to be enough justification to lay siege to Palestine. Hezbollah decided to join the party by grabbing 2 more, and now Lebannon is getting the fuck bombed out it from jets and naval guns.
Now the Arab world is getting pissed at Israel (me too, but for different reasons*), and it is inevitable that Egypt will enter the fray if it continues.
Syria is trying to lay low, but Bush out of nowhere and unlooked for says "Syria must be held accountable" (FOR WHAT!? what have they done?). Now, ever since Iraq, its been on the Bush regime's mind that Syria is next on the hit list, but it needs another 9/11 to do it. This could suffice, and so Bush throws them in. Now there's talk of Turkey being pushed to use it's influence. The world has moved on, and is about to take a giant leap further.
*- The best these terrorist organizations can do against Israel is kidnap, suicide bomb, and launch homemade rockets that have a shot in the dark (no pun intended) of killing anything. Israel retaliates with tonnes of ordinance on non-military targets like airports and roads. Israel wants a war, and lets not forget that they are nuclear power (nookular).
Edited for spelling
Edited by Minstrel (07/15/06 08:26 AM)
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Minstrel]
#5857727 - 07/14/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm waiting for Israel to lite up a nuke and see what happens then.
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anyone remember john titor? real TT or not all this is pretty much what he was talking bout just a wee bit late. i pretty much knew along with anyone with some common scense would know another huge war is due its just a matter of time and it looks like its about to start
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: 013akilper]
#5857962 - 07/14/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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> it looks like its about to start
Nah, it's too soon. Once Iran tests a nuke, in five to eight years, then we are getting close. Everything going on now is simply for the sake of raising oil prices. They had started to go down, remember? Here in a few weeks, once all the oil companies have filled their pockets, things will return to "normal".
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Minstrel]
#5858004 - 07/14/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think so. I think if the world is thrusted into a major conflict and crisis, it will probably involve Iran and North Korea, and these will probably be seperate conflicts as I doubt Iran and North Korea are ever going to ally themselves with one another. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is ages old, and every few years there is an outbreak of violence. It was quite hectic and crazy like this back in 2002 when suicide bombers were hitting Israel almost every other day eventually resulting in the Jenin massacre when Israel cracked down. The most this current crisis can escalate to is an all out war between Israel and Hezbollah, which would eventually lead to the dispersement/defeat of Hezbollah.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Seuss]
#5858140 - 07/14/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > it looks like its about to start
Nah, it's too soon. Once Iran tests a nuke, in five to eight years, then we are getting close. Everything going on now is simply for the sake of raising oil prices. They had started to go down, remember? Here in a few weeks, once all the oil companies have filled their pockets, things will return to "normal".
good point...hasnt n korea been testing missles and such recently? not nukes but if they did have some they could just strap one onto one of them missles and launch em somewhere not so fun. and iran been talking bout having nuclear power or whatever.i havnt been following up too much on this whole middle east stuff kinda been in my own little world for the past couple months
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: 013akilper]
#5858244 - 07/14/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The end of the world has got to happen because of some idiots arguing over land if it happens at all.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: 013akilper]
#5858540 - 07/14/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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013akilper said: anyone remember john titor? real TT or not all this is pretty much what he was talking bout just a wee bit late. i pretty much knew along with anyone with some common scense would know another huge war is due its just a matter of time and it looks like its about to start
If I am not mistaken, Titor said there would be civil war in the US starting in 2006 not a world war.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Vvellum]
#5858841 - 07/14/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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WW3 was supposed to be "very short" in 2015. An all-out nuke swap-fest, which is why it doesn't last long.
Johh Titor was a good story.
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Microcosmatrix said: I'm waiting for Israel to lite up a nuke and see what happens then.
hell yes, nuke those fucking cave dwelling, sand niggers.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Minstrel]
#5858902 - 07/14/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Will this war go nuclear?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/blog/index.asp
Here is the situation: World leaders are lining up, either on the side of the Islamic terrorists (Chirac and Putin) or the side of their victims (the United States and -- somewhat -- Great Britain). The Vatican, which has an unsavory record in regard to the periodic slaughters of the Jews has thrown its moral weight (such as it is these days) onto the scales against the Jews. As the Hizbollah terrorists fire hundreds of rockets into Israeli cities from Lebanon and the Pope condemns Israel's attempts to destroy the rockets aimed at its citizens, Israel's chief of staff is forced to concede that those rockets can reach farther than previously thought, putting more Israelis in danger. Meanwhile, the Syrian terrorist state tells Time magazine that it could destroy Israel's nuclear sites. Hizbollah, Hamas, Iran and Syria occupy areas that are one hundred times the size of Israel and the populations they control are ten times the size of Israel's. Hizbollah and Hamas, and their patron Iran, have sworn to remove Israel from the face of the earth -- in those very words. Iran has defied the world community in asserting its determination to complete its nuclear program. Syria supports Iran, hosts Hamas and is a party to this malignant Islamic crusade. Behind them stand Russia and China and North Korea, and also apparently the international left which is lining up squarely behind the jihadists -- and has been doing so throughout the open preparation of this second holocaust. The left's favorite apostle Noam Chomsky only months ago was embracing Hizbollah's Hitler, Hassan Nasrallah, and his genocidal agendas.
So here is the issue: If you were Israel's prime minister, could you afford to wait until Iran attains nuclear warheads for Hizbollah's missiles? Or can you be sure it hasn't already been supplied such warheads by Russia or China through Iran? Could you afford to wait to see if Syria will supply the chemical and biological weapons it has cached for Saddam Hussein to Hizbollah and Hamas? Or would you proceed to plan B and obliterate them now?
While the Israeli prime minister ponders this question, leftists who are encouraging the forces of genocide -- Hizbollah, Hamas, Syria and Iran -- might want to think how all the present bloodshed and the next terrible decisions that Israel must take to defend itself -- and their consequences -- will lie on their heads
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: rod]
#5860686 - 07/15/06 03:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am ashamed to be from the same culture as people who so openly condemn others to massive death. Maybe we do deserve a nuclear war to rid us of people that think it's a good idea. Mankind as a whole certainly seems to have lost any real ability to reason.
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thats the problem
it wouldnt be too hard for me to lie and say i'm asiatik and hate my own race on the net either
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: quiver]
#5862451 - 07/15/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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quiver said: thats the problem
it wouldnt be too hard for me to lie and say i'm asiatik and hate my own race on the net either
Too bad your baned right now so you might not see my reply but I'll say something anyway.
Look here, there are people like me in america who do not agree with what our leaders do. We recognize that there are bad people out there that want americans dead. But we also know they don't want us dead for some made up reasons. Maybe I would be a good little flag waver like you if there weren't so damn many lies told every fucking election year. The leaders of my govt are a pack of lying dogs! And if someone lies to me a thousand times you damn well better believe I am NOT going to buy their bullshit just because they decided to have a war.
I am from the US weather you want to believe I'm asian or whatever, it means nothing to me. Maybe when this war on drugs ends and they stop locking up people for victimless crimes and stop lying to us about health care and the other 500 lies they tell every election year then I might join on your side in touting western greatness. But I refuse to pick the lesser of two evils, they can both rot for all I care. We should pull all our troops out of the middle-east and send all the senetors who voted for the iraq war and the coorperate hounds who profited from it in their place, the world would be alot better off. Oh and we could send all the mindless flag wavers there too, music would certainly be far better without tim magraw
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Minstrel]
#5862491 - 07/15/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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the world has been on the brink of war for the past 60 years.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: wilshire]
#5862516 - 07/15/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wilshire said: the world has been on the brink of war for the past 60 years.
The world has been on the brink of war since there were humans of different clans.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: zappaisgod]
#5865313 - 07/16/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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wilshire said: the world has been on the brink of war for the past 60 years.
The world has been on the brink of war since there were humans of different clans.
Nonsense.
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Seuss]
#5865552 - 07/16/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here in a few weeks, once all the oil companies have filled their pockets, things will return to "normal".
I disagree 100%....Their pockets are bottomless. Bring on hybrids!!
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Alex213]
#5865560 - 07/16/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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wilshire said: the world has been on the brink of war for the past 60 years.
The world has been on the brink of war since there were humans of different clans.
Nonsense.
BBC NEWS Brutal lives of Stone Age Britons By Paul Rincon BBC News science reporter
A survey of British skulls from the early part of the New Stone Age, or Neolithic, shows societies then were more violent than was supposed.
Early Neolithic Britons had a one in 20 chance of suffering a skull fracture at the hands of someone else and a one in 50 chance of dying from their injuries.
Details were presented at a meeting of the Society for American Archaeology and reported in New Scientist magazine.
Blunt instruments such as clubs were responsible for most of the traumas.
This is not the first time human-induced injuries have been identified in Neolithic people; but the authors say it is the first study to give some idea of the overall frequency of such traumas.
Rick Schulting of Queen's University Belfast and Michael Wysocki from the University of Central Lancashire looked at 350 skulls spanning the period from 4000 BC to 3200 BC.
"We generally think of Neolithic people as living peaceful lives - they were busy looking after cereal crops and rearing livestock," Mr Wysocki told the BBC News website.
"But it was a much more violent society."
Mortal wounds
Nearly 5% of the skulls showed healed depressed fractures. They found unhealed injuries in 2% of the sample, suggesting these individuals died from their wounds.
But the true scale of the violence still remains unclear due to the nature of the evidence, say the authors. In other simple, small-scale societies, the incidence of death as a result of violence ranges from 8-33%.
"Our data shows 2% lethal cranial injuries, but these are just cranial. The data for other societies is for all lethal injuries, but ours is limited so we can't compare it," Mr Wysocki said.
"A lot of lethal injuries will be to soft tissues and that needn't affect bone."
The researchers suspect that what they are seeing is violence at the local and regional level rather than large-scale warfare involving large sections of the country.
"We could also be seeing raiding parties, cattle rustling, somebody suspecting the other tribe across the hill is practising witchcraft," the University of Central Lancashire forensic anthropologist explained.
"Some of the violence may be domestic; some of it may even be ritualised."
The majority of the traumas were caused by blunt instruments which may have included improvised clubs. But a handful of fractures look like they have been inflicted by flint arrowheads and spearpoints. One of the females in the sample appears to have been the victim of a brutal attack with a stone axe.
Another individual with a suspected projectile fracture appears to have had their ears slashed off - a possible instance of trophy-taking, the researchers speculate.
The research originally appeared in the Proceedings of the Prehistoric Society journal.
Paul.Rincon-INTERNET@bbc.co.uk Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4757861.stm
Published: 2006/05/11 10:41:04 GMT
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Re: World on the brink of War? [Re: Minstrel]
#5866766 - 07/16/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The real question is, how many more wars will be led into for the advancement of the zionist cause and people? If they get massacred, maybe they'll stop murdering foreigners in other soverign nations. If the Arabs get a nuke, maybe they'll come to their senses, doubtful, but maybe. I just don't care less, really, and I'm getting ready to put myself in a position where I'll probably be doing some fighting.
I'd say that this would be a fantastic time to get into the military, get some good training and stock up.
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