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Fly Agaric Aftermath
    #5857705 - 07/14/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

(Wrong thread? I don't know)
I posted my trip report a few days ago, and at the time was still waiting for my hospital bill. To my surprise (not really) I also received a court summons, and these two things came in the mail today.

The hospital bill - $2414.75
Shit, I would've rather have been left alone than be left with that bill. Without a second thought I'm going to apply for free care, especially since I don't have health insurance. I'd rather not go into detail because most everyone has felt the pain of medical care fees.

Court summons - Fines and Costs - $420 (coincidence)
I plan on fighting the case, and because I don't want to pay the specified due or the 50 dollar collateral, I'll be going downtown.

Here's the police report:
Nature of Offense - Defendant was found by police to be passed out on the front porch of (address number). Would come in and out of consciousness and could not communicate with police. Found to be in possession of (magic mint) Salvia Divinorum and (mushrooms) Amanita Muscaria (non-controlled substances however).
Remarks - They have an LSD type of hallucinogenic effect when eaten. Prior to police arrival, several calls were placed to 911 in regards to the defendant staggering and falling down near traffic. The def. did cause public inconvenience, annoyance and alarm and he created a hazardous physical offensive condition by his actions which served no legitimate purpose.

To Serve and Protect? My ass.

I also had nitrous on me which they didn't report, so it's my guess they kept it themselves. I wish I could go down and take back my salvia. I had four grams of it.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5857734 - 07/14/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

How are you going to beat the "public inconvenience, annoyance and alarm" stuff?


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: DrGeek]
    #5857752 - 07/14/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't seen your trip report yet, i'll have a look for it now !

Sounds like it was a rough night anyway.
People in England complain about our health system but at least it's free.
$2414.75 that's fuckin crazy.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: DrGeek]
    #5857758 - 07/14/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The only inconvenience I posed was to myself, I talked with the people who watched me stumble around, and the only extent I affected them was them calling the cops. It's not like I went onto their porch begging for money or food, I was walking on the sidewalk, on public property, crossed the street, public property, and passed out on my friend's porch. And is it a public offense for people to be worried? I'd hope not.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5857781 - 07/14/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Could have been a pretty fun time just kicking it in a friends basement instead look at what happened.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: rawtoxic]
    #5857942 - 07/14/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

*shrug* well in your defense you realized something was going to happen and tried to get yourself to a safe place, you made several calls (if someone EVER told me they were on amanitas, or ANY drugs like that and really needed help I'd be there as soon as I could). There really wasn't much more you could have done, they can't really nail you for the substances you had on you and you took the most responsible action at the time by trying to find somewhere safe to go. Good luck with the cases.

As for the "To serve and protect" comment you made... Come on, can you blame them for picking you up? They thought you may have posed a danger to yourself or others... If you were walking down the street and noticed someone falling all over the place seemingly completely unable to control themselves you'd be worried, if not for the person's health then about the possibility of him injuring you. I'd be ashamed if the cops didn't pick you up. Getting picked up because you're laughing or doing something that seems odd yeah, that's a bad call on the cop's part... Picking you up because you're stumbling blind and aimlessly down the street and you just slammed your face into the porch and were unresponsive, no, that's common sense, common procedure, and a common problem. If they just let people get away with stumbling around and passing out then they'd be spending all their time driving drunks home and to the hospital so of course they're going to charge you in some way for wasting their time and causing a scene. You were an idiot (did a drug which by the sounds of it you didn't understand the effects combined with other powerful drugs in a public setting without a back up plan) and you got caught, while the police can be annoying keep in mind they're just doing their job, keeping the community safe and protected, YOU are not the community, when you pose a potential threat to the community (you mentioned they thought you were on amphetamines or something cause of the twitching?) your comfort and convenience really isn't that important. If you lived in the area and your kids were playing outside you wouldn't want to see someone like that walking around in your neighbourhood either and passing out on someone's porch.

I've had my run ins with the cops, nothing happened but each time was a close call, I know there's a lot of corruption in the police force, etc and that a lot of them couldn't care less about the community, I just don't like seeing people walking around saying "fuck the police" just because they posed an inconvenience to them when they were doing something stupid in public.

And yes, the cops might have been dicks, but MOST cops are, get used to it. Even if they're not dicks they'll usually act like dicks so you don't try to screw around with them.

Just be a little more careful when trying new things next time, you never know when you'll stumble on the drug that makes you lose your mind.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: StickyWater]
    #5859792 - 07/14/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I couldn't agree more with you about the cop statement I made. I do know that they keep goofballs off the streets, bring justice to thieves, domestic violence, murderers, any type of violence, but I suppose drugs are just a sensitive issue which has no definitive answer. I guess it's better to have all the services they provide with the few, aggressive tendencies they might have. I do think I can pull my case off, with the second post I made and the point you made about doing the only thing I could've possibly done. I'll make the final judgement call after the weekend though, because I don't want this to interfere with my [hopefully this time they are solid] plans.

In response to Ashland from the other thread: This was the most intense trip I've been through, but like I said it's something to learn from. We'll see if I can step in a pile of horse crap and come out smelling like a rose though.

And StickyWater, I'll take that advice of cops, which hopefully I don't run into anytime soon. Usually I like to test limits with new drugs, but I definitely overdid it this time.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5860120 - 07/14/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

do you live with your parents? if you did what did they think of this whole thing


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: kora]
    #5860397 - 07/15/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno, it really sucks that you're in the position you're in. But honestly I think if you can make it clear that you have nothing to hide and you just made a mistake and tried to take the responsible course of action they might be willing to lighten the charges a bit if they feel you just made a stupid mistake, you haven't been arrested before or anything right? Cause then it could be a different story


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: StickyWater]
    #5867699 - 07/16/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I do kora, hopefully not for too much longer though. They don't know about it.

I don't think it's possible for them to drop the charge, so maybe all I can hope for is for them to reduce the fine. Aside from this charge, I have a clean record. I'll see how it plays out and post.


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Re: Fly Agaric Aftermath [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5868354 - 07/17/06 06:13 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

While getting nailed with the bill and fine sucks. I do not think that the cops are out of line in what they did, or placing the charges.

This just goes to show the importance of set, setting and responsible use. While I do commend you for /trying/ to get help to pick you up from where you were at, it was not a very bright thing to be doing them where you did them in the first place.

If I saw someone stumbling down my street incoherent, constantly falling down and eventually becoming unresponsive and passing out - I'd call the cops. Hell, I *HAVE* called the cops.

I remember one day I was waiting in front of a friends apt building, this guy bursts out of a taxi yelling "HELP ME" and being a spazz, he was running all over, screaming, obviously fucked up on something. I tried to talk to him to see if he was ok, then he'd yell "WHOO I FEEL AMAZING", then start screaming again. Eventually he started to stumble into traffic, almost got hit by a car, then after about 10 mins he fell over on the sidewalk and became unresponsive. I called 911 for him, no idea what drugs he was on, but he was starting to pose a risk to himself and those around him. A large crowd has now gathered around and some other people are starting to 'take over', then the ambulance shows up. I head upto my friends apt on the 17th floor - then the guy starts SCREAMING. Even inside the apt on the 17th floor I could hear him just screaming his head off.

While I'm sure being put onto a stretcher and dragged off to the hospital isn’t the most pleasant thing in that state, he had become a risk to himself and the public around him and don’t feel like I did wrong by doing what I did.

Thankfully I live in Canada and he wont be nailed with a hospital bill, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he got fined.


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