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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5832032 - 07/07/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

correct.


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5832610 - 07/07/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I just got back from a quick walk.I found 2 or 3 types of lactuca but I brought back only two.I found what I think is L.serriola and L.virosa.

The serriola in your pictures is what I believe to be the "rosettes" of the serriola before it shoots up a stalk.

If I go by the pictures I have seen then the ones you posted are virosa.I will give an example of a serriola.Or what I think is serriola by my research.

Here is the flower top of what I believe to be l.virosa


Here are the leaves and stalk of the same plant.



And here is a leaf from what I believe to be serriola.But I am not sure.All the ones with this sort of leaf were significantly taller than the other pictures I posted.(EDIT:not serriola)




Please correct me if I have made a mistake.But I am quite sure your pictures are virosa and not serriola.


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5832699 - 07/07/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yours both look like virosa to me.
theres very little spines at all and whats there is 1mm or less.
that last one might be another kind alltogether.
virosa and serriola are the ones mentioned in my book cause they are native, but there may be more where your at.

the spines on my plant are 2mm and theres lots of em.

but the dead giveway is the raproot.
serriola doesent have one, virosa does.

so im positive the pics i posted are of serriola, but on the surface the difference is invisible.

if i run into more of em ill try to get some pics of the root systems
and ill see about getting detail pics of the spines if my cheapo cam will cooperate...


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5832741 - 07/07/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I just grabbed another large one with the same type of leaves as the last picture I posted.After I lookd closer I think you are right,the last one is a different kind.

When you say spines,do you mean the spines on the bottom of the leaf stem or the prickly looking things that surrond the entire leaf?


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5832753 - 07/07/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

actualy both.
the serriola has them around the edges of the leaf and on the stem on the underside of the leaf, typicly 2mm in sise.

according to my book virosa has them 1mm and smaller around the leaf
and they may be completely absent on the underside of the leaf, or else 1mm and smaller.


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    #5835179 - 07/08/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: pod3]
    #5835377 - 07/08/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

they seem to be pretty commen here...


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    #5840140 - 07/09/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: pod3]
    #5840201 - 07/09/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Common here, too. Abundant seeds will be available to trade, if anyone can't find it for free.




Same here.

I thought it was common knowledge about letuce being phsycoactive during/after flowering. I was a teenager the last time I messed with it though..... I actually have some 4 1/2 foot tall ones that I neglected to harvest at the right time for eating. I might mess around with an extraction.


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5849246 - 07/11/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Anyone ever tried or think steam distillation of the essential oils of Lactuca plants?
How would you use such an oil?


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Kerbouchard]
    #5850197 - 07/12/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, my damn camera broke, so these are gonne be the last pics i upload for a wile.
some adult plants:

Lactuca virosa:




Lactuca serriola:





it seems that the length of the spines vary alot, and on these adults they get as big as 5mm on the back of the leaf.
so what i said earlyer about length of these spines doesent realy work.

also from the shape of the leaf, maybe the one i took home might be virosa after all.

im gonna try to harvest these adults, try to get some seeds and maybe
try to get some 'speudo-opium' out of it.
after that ill dig em up and inspect the roots thuroughly.
if all goes well ill find some more juveniles and check their roots aswell.

in the meantime i guess ill see about getting myself a new camera...


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5850210 - 07/12/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)



how about this?

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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5850217 - 07/12/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well i think the green one is etable, but the other one will prolly give u some serious OBE there, might even contain some 5-Meo-w...


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5851622 - 07/12/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

this is proobing to be harder then i thought,
apparently there are forms of virosa with the pointy leafs and forms of serriola with long leafs.

apparently all the the long leaf ones i posted are L. serriola.
L. virosa apparently has wider leafs then these.

also these all have that twist in the leaf at the base, wich is supposed to be absent from L. serriola.

the one i have with the long taproot may be virosa, but i dont have pics of that yet.

i noticed another thing on pics i googled:
some variations have spines on the stem, some do not.
ive seen this for both pointy and streight leafed plants.


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5853861 - 07/13/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

were talking about Lactuca spec. here dude.
if you want to go offtopic u need to be funnyer.


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5854016 - 07/13/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

sorry man, a real picture of A real lion In a feild of opuim lettuce is just too damn cool to dispute.

TOO DAMN COOL.

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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5854576 - 07/13/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

what are you trying to provoke?

keep your OTD shit in the OTD forum, this is a place wit hsubject matter.

wtf are u even doing here?


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Re: The Lion and the Lettuce [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5854624 - 07/13/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Give it a rest, Mitchnast! You're derailing the topic.


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