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Psilocybe cubensis "Puerto Rican" on rye/compost
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Per BeppoMarx?s request I am continuing the Puerto Rican thread here.

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If at first you don?t succeed....[image]/forums/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/image].

I justed spawned Dr. Bluethumbs compost with rye. I made up two foil baking trays. I?m keeping my fingers crossed.

In vitro pinning (sorry about the quality)


More invitro pinning


Broken up colonised rye


After mixing compost and rye


In casing tray


Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/21) [Re: Joshua]
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Josha, a few comments and question for you.

First of all i?m very excited to see a fresh start of another great documentation of Josha and his PRs. Lets hope the compost works out for you this time. I?m not totally sure but compost is usually fully colonized right and then either fruited like that or a casing layer is applied? Moreover, I have a question for you. I?ve been using rye lately and I?ve had no problems getting both quarts and pints to fully colonizes in less than 2 weeks. However, when I case them, in all the different ways i?ve tried (with the GC strain) I get many but small shrooms. Now, I think this is either:

a. the strain; or:
b. the substrate / casing layer depth.

I?m very sure my humidity and other enviromental controls are ideal. Just wonder what you would suggest. I?m going to try some B+ on rye the same way I grow GCs to see if it might just be the strain but with that size of container you showed usually how much rye do you use and how much of a bottom / top casing layer?

Thank you very much if you can help me.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/21) [Re: Joshua]
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Third pic looks like breakfast cereal, muesli.

Yum yum, pass the milk and honey

Good luck this time



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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/21) [Re: phrozendata]
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Josha, JOSHUA a few comments and question for you.

First of all i?m very excited to see a fresh start of another great documentation of Josha JOSHUA and his PRs. Lets hope the compost works out for you this time. I?m not totally sure but compost is usually fully colonized right and then either fruited like that or a casing layer is applied?

-Absolutely right.

Moreover, I have a question for you. I?ve been using rye lately and I?ve had no problems getting both quarts and pints to fully colonizes in less than 2 weeks. However, when I case them, in all the different ways i?ve tried (with the GC strain) I get many but small shrooms. Now, I think this is either:

a. the strain; or:
b. the substrate / casing layer depth.

-I would guess b. I haven?t grown GC yet, but have heard nothing about smaller fruits from them.

I?m very sure my humidity and other enviromental controls are ideal. Just wonder what you would suggest.

-For fruiting keep humidity @ %85 and temp @ 75 F. You have a range on either side of these figures at which you will still have success. Also purchase The Mushroom Cultivator by Paul Stamets.

I?m going to try some B+ on rye the same way I grow GCs to see if it might just be the strain but with that size of container you showed usually how much rye do you use and how much of a bottom / top casing layer?

-I usually put 1/4-1/2 inch of verm or casing mix on the bottom. Layer at least an inch of substrate and then another 1/2-1 inch in casing. You should layer your casing @ 3/4-1 inch for shallow substrate layers (TMC).

Thank you very much if you can help me.

-I would not suggest fruiting from grain. Grain is usually used to spawn a bulk substrate such as straw or compost. The mycelium has a hard time penetrating the grain completely, therefor you lose the ability for the mycelium to fix a large percentage of nutrients available for flushes. Instead you may see lighter fruitings extended over time.

-I know a lot of you out there fruit off of rye. Maybe someone else has some ideas as well regarding this topic.

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/21) [Re: Joshua]
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Who da man? Josha da man!


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/21) [Re: Joshua]
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3/22 morning


3/24 night (forgot to set my up-close setting...oops)



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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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3/28 early AM.





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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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3/30 mid-day




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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Looking Very Nice !!!!

Keep up the great work and pictures .....bro


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Roadkill]
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is that bluethumbs shit?
you better post results
thanks
nice job

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Looking very good Joshua. Hope you can get them to pin!
Keep on Shroomin ;}

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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4/1 Late evening





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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Yep, thats mycelium alright.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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4/4 early morning



From the bottom side.




I think I will be placing this in the fruiting chamber soon.

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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hi....bro

Is the yellow mycellium piss ?

great pictures as always....keep em coming!


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Roadkill]
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I believe it is called leachate (sp?). As the mycelium advances through the substrate it pushes the excess compost juice (leachate) out of the substrate, thus forming piss colored drops.

I could be BSing you though.

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Lookin? good and ready to crank out some shrooms!


Joshua: I want a whole chocolate pie to go. But bring me a piece of it now.

Roadkill: So I said "Hey fucker!"

Me: So this is Washington...


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Also happens with dung or dung/straw mixtures. Sometimes making a whole bunch of nasty ass yellow jelly, seems to be harmless though. Attempts at removing it showed no benefit over simply leaving it and casing over it, even when the substrate was almost entirely covered with it.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Insomnia]
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lmfaoooo @ Insomnia

I ended up with Josh?s pie....lolz

You ended up meeting us after standing around for 40 minutes... plus.
Josh had a Shroomery hoodie on ....even....blind fucker.

hahaaaaa

It was nice meeting you.....hope you liked Washington.
How was that seminar ?


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Roadkill]
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Man Sheri?s is alright. That skillet I put away was mighty tasty. I had no idea country-fried sausage was such a heavy narcotic.

Hope you enjoyed that pie. I can imagine you eating a few grams of Cams and sliding that whole pie down at once.

Heh good meeting you too. That seminar was the cat?s ass. Washington is a great state and the marijuana I sampled was nice too.

Peace.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Insomnia]
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It does appear as if the Mycelia isn?t Growing outta control as it did in the last expiriment. Is that the case or is it about on the same timeline?

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Under_net]
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The mycelium is a lot slower than last time. Keep in mind this is the colonisation stage while the pics from last time were after colonisation of the substrate. I do think that mycelium grows slower on compost than on a flour substrate. I could be wrong though.

Late 4/6

Original tray, this one is in the fruiting chamber. I will case it later.



Tray B



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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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Great pictures bro !!

Keep em coming !!

nice toe...is that jam on that toe ?


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Brainiac said:
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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Roadkill]
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I was playing soccer with shoes that were too small. The salesman advised me to buy a size down as my shoes would stretch to comfort and provide better feeling for the ball. When I would come to a stop from running on the feild my toes would jam against the end of my shoe and jam my toenails into my nail bed. They turned black and fell out. They are just now reaching their original length again. They are a bit funky now.

So..yes I have sort of toe jam type toenails right now.



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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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hahahaaaaaaa

funky toes!


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
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Brainiac said:
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Re: Puerto Ricans II (3/28) [Re: Joshua]
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that happened to one of my fingers when i was in second grade.. i got it slammed in a car door and the nail turned black and fell off. but when that happens your nail grows back stronger and will be for the rest of your life. isn?t the body amazing?

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Joshua]
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Hyphal knots are showing! I will not case this at this time. I am anxious to see some fruits.





Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Joshua]
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Very nice bro !!

Hey.... I need your camera for my poo casing pictures....lolz
Lemme borrow it...or come back up for a visit.


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Roadkill]
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Ya nice.
Hey Josh, how old are you?

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Joshua]
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Yipee!

I have a pin emerging from my casing, and check it out no colonisation of the casing layer. Yes, these are Puertos. My secret? Allow full colonisation of substrate, case and immediately start light cycle. Snobrdr311 brought up this idea quite a while ago.

I was going to let the pins from the last picture mature but changed my mind. I cased this on the 9th.

I am 24

Enjoy!



Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Joshua]
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So josh, did you mix toenails in with the coco fiber... is that what i?m seeing there?

Nice pics

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Pavlovs Dog]
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>did you mix toenails in with the coco fiber

Haha, that?s exactly what I was thinking in the first moment

But I guess these are crushed oystershells.

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Pavlovs Dog]
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HAHAHAHAHA!

I see the simularity. Maybe I should keep the toes out of my posts. What you see is in fact crushed oyster shell.

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/7 knots!) [Re: Joshua]
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hey josh quick question. I?m using the same strain and my jars are almost fully colonized. What are the advantages of casing then immediatly starting the light cycle? is it because puertos are more aggresive than other strains?? Thanks for the feedback.


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/15) [Re: Trippin_Billy]
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Yes. This strain grows very strong. Most people have problems w/ overlay. You can see how I had overlay in the past w/ Puertos, search for "Puerto Ricans" in this forum. Good luck w/ yours!

Joshua


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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/15) [Re: Joshua]
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Right on dude, everything is looking great!

Can?t wait to see the final outcome.

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Re: Puerto Ricans II (4/15) [Re: Joshua]
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Unfortunately the pin aborted[image]/forums/w3timages/icons/sad.gif[/image]. When removing the pin I did however see several others coming up[image]/forums/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/image]. I have watered the casing and hope the others will have better luck. I will post an update as soon as they are looking decent.



This was taken yesterday.







This log was unsuccessful. I believe this is due to the poor quality compost Dr. B was offering. I have several projects that yeilded the same results. The compost would colonise very slow and often not completely. When fruiting was initiated I found many aborts. I have been having excellent results using horse dung.

Joshua


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