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antimatt3r
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suggestions needed
#5853953 - 07/13/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey whats up everyone just needed some info or some help if anyone can.... I have 2 pf cakes in my terrarium, 2 inches of perlite and about an inch of water in a plastic storage container the cakes are on top of a wire mesh screen above the perilite... i also have two 2 liter bottles cut in half filled 3/4 with water and 2 air stones pumping bubbles through the water.... i cannot get my humidity over 88% no matter what i do, even before i put the air pump in, it was at 88%. i figured maybe i did something wrong so i set up an aquarium (2nd terrarium) with perlite and a hygrometer and sure enough, exactly 88% in this one as well, but in this one i put about 3 inches of perlite, still 88%...
please view my user gallery, this is what keeps happening to me.... ill get what looks like its going to be an awesome flush with tons of 'babies' starting to grow, but then 90% abort and ill get one big fruit... the pictures are 2 individual cakes after they had been dunked, and as you can see, only one fruit matures.... also in addition, in getting mycelium growing on the stems, as well as a little on the caps... the forums say mycelium on stems = too high humidity, and they also say mycelium on caps = too low humidity... if i did a casing would 88% be sufficient?
addition: the perlite in the 1st terrarium was dampened, drained then put in. the perlite in the 2nd terrarium was placed in, then water added both are creating 88% humidity =/
also i do have 2 hygrometers one analog and one digital and they consistently read the same
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Edited by antimatt3r (07/13/06 09:01 AM)
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monstermitch
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: antimatt3r]
#5853961 - 07/13/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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two things.
your perlite should be damp, not sitting in standing water.
rinse it well and then use it damp. don't pour it in dry and dump in some water. your perlite will give you 99%, no need for a hygrometer.
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your hygrometer sucks use the salt test to test it for yourself. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/remlinke...06&Main=5473957
get that bubbling water out of there. forget about your hygrometer. with damp perlite your humidity will be fine.
count on it.
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antimatt3r
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yes thank you, but i bought an analog hygrometer as well and it says the same thing as the digital one =/ and as for the perlite i started that second terrarium and it too was 88%
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decepticon
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: antimatt3r]
#5853991 - 07/13/06 08:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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most any hygrometer you will find that is not very expensive will not work well.
I agree, perlite done correctly as stated above will give you near, if not, 100% humidity.
did you try that testing method? try it now...
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: antimatt3r]
#5853992 - 07/13/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you follow what he said no matter what the humidity is it will work great. also 88 is not that bad but hard to belive with standing water in the bottom.
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: royer]
#5854000 - 07/13/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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personally,
I see absolutely no need for standing water. period.
there should be no standing water in a fruiting chamber, or anywhere near any grows.
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: decepticon]
#5854011 - 07/13/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
decepticon said: personally,
I see absolutely no need for standing water. period.
there should be no standing water in a fruiting chamber, or anywhere near any grows.
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i agree
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monstermitch
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: royer]
#5854104 - 07/13/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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salt test your hygrometers.
add updates in new posts. people will not revert back to your first post and read it again.
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fastfred
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> I see absolutely no need for standing water.
It's fine to have standing water under your perlite layer.
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decepticon
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: fastfred]
#5854279 - 07/13/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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actually, you seem to be right.
many people do it with success. I just wouldn't. I have something against standing water. and peroxide is not the answer either, it quickly breaks down.
I think this is one of my quirks.
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creamcorn
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: decepticon]
#5854303 - 07/13/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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contam paranoia aside, standing water keeps perlite from doing its job... a little at the bottom is cool to keep you from needing to re-dampen the perlite so often, but only works out if you got a good couple inches above the standing water level.
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fastfred
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: creamcorn]
#5854407 - 07/13/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep. I find it best to have just enough water to cover the bottom of your bin, or perhaps 1 cm of standing water at most. It keeps the perlite wet.
If you don't have a little water standing in the bottom, you probably aren't keeping your perlite wet enough to do it's job optimally. With a clear tub it's easy to maintain the proper amount of water in the perlite, otherwise it's a little more difficult. You can place a ring in the perlite and remove the perlite from inside it so that you can see the water level.
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liamtheloser
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Re: suggestions needed [Re: fastfred]
#5856042 - 07/13/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd say your hygrometers don't measure past 88%... most cheap hygrometers don't go past 85-90 so yours is probably shite.
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