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Seuss
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Re: Israel [Re: Phred]
#5853776 - 07/13/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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> Israel has every right to respond by waging war on Hezbollah.
But France just said that Israel's actions are "a disproportionate act of war". Of course, France is known for rolling over and giving up when they get attacked, so I guess this kind of makes sense.
> Clearly, only if President Lahud himself walked into Israel and attacked Israelites does it justify Israel doing anything to Lebanon.
Nope, not even then. See, Israel is bad, m'kay?... and anything Israel does is bad, m'kay? If somebody does something bad to Israel, then that is good, m'lay? You are following, so far? Where was I... oh yeah, Israel is bad, and ... :rollleyes:
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Re: Israel [Re: Seuss]
#5853888 - 07/13/06 07:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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so what you mean is that if i go to China and kidnap a few people, then china would be justified to start bombing the US back into the stone age?
yeah, it makes perfect sense. how could anyone disagree? 
WOW...
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Seuss
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> so what you mean is that if i go to China and kidnap a few people, then china would be justified to start bombing the US back into the stone age?
Do you reach for the most inappropriate analogy, or do you really view the situtation as you describe? Either way... 
A better analogy would be along the lines of... so what you mean is that if Thaiwan, after declaring war on China, starts to go into China, from US military bases, with the blessing of the US, and kidnaps Chinese soldiers, then China would be justified to start bombing the US back into the stone age? Certainly, China would be more than justified, assuming that the US was allowing the use of their land to stage attacks against the chinese military.
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Mahmoud Abbas said this is a brand new regional conflict.
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WW3 is going to be fun, oh boy!
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JonnyOnTheSpot said: so what you mean is that if i go to China and kidnap a few people, then china would be justified to start bombing the US back into the stone age?
yeah, it makes perfect sense. how could anyone disagree? 
WOW...
Considering that most of the Muslim world wants all Jews dead... Do we want all the Chinese dead? Does China want US dead? Heh, China and USA have been spying on eachother non stop and the spies get caught in both countries every few years. The difference between China and USA is that one side doesn't want to exterminate the other side.
There was also the incident when China shut down one of our spy planes and captured the crew. Then we just talked it over and they returned all of the soldiers.
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i wonder if nk will do something now that this has flared up,its their style
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Re: Israel [Re: quiver]
#5854873 - 07/13/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ummm.. am I the only one feeling like Israel is spitting sparks into the powderkeg that is the Middle East? You're all so casual about it.
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Re: Israel [Re: Asante]
#5854883 - 07/13/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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to me it's not really worth worrying about,it's out of our hands,always has been i think our attitudes are a sign that everyones sick of being blackmailed by that powderkeg and we might as well get it over with
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The Jews mishandled their gift 'Israel' from England and America after ww2. So I see no problem with taking back this 'gift' or give the Palestinians their country (back). Good recognition, btw
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quiver
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see my sig,they didnt give those helmets back
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Re: Israel [Re: Asante]
#5854948 - 07/13/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Ummm.. am I the only one feeling like Israel is spitting sparks into the powderkeg that is the Middle East? You're all so casual about it.
In some ways it seems like the powder keg is increasing in size and honestly i'd rather get a flash burn than be blown to pieces.
shits gonna hit the fan at some point
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Re: Israel [Re: d33p]
#5855001 - 07/13/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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well put!
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THE KRAT BARON
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BlueCoyote said: The Jews mishandled their gift 'Israel' from England and America after ww2. So I see no problem with taking back this 'gift' or give the Palestinians their country (back). Good recognition, btw
Who did Plastine originally belong to? I believe it was the Jews.
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downforpot said: So even though Lebanon attacked first, Israel still can't attack Lebanon?
Um, Lebanon hasn't attacked anyone, although, by all rights, they should, since another country is destroying their airports, media network, and airbases because of the actions of a group in the country, and threatening to destroy their infrastructure to the point of "setting them back 20 years". 
Wow, a group is firing rockets and capturing the occasional, dimwitted soldier, so lets go destroy an entire country. Its, quite simply, a ploy for territory. In that context, it makes perfect sense.
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mattzdope said:
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BlueCoyote said: The Jews mishandled their gift 'Israel' from England and America after ww2. So I see no problem with taking back this 'gift' or give the Palestinians their country (back). Good recognition, btw
Who did Plastine originally belong to? I believe it was the Jews.
There was no Palestine. That area was a part of the Ottoman Empire.
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fireworks_god said:
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downforpot said: So even though Lebanon attacked first, Israel still can't attack Lebanon?
Um, Lebanon hasn't attacked anyone, although, by all rights, they should, since another country is destroying their airports, media network, and airbases because of the actions of a group in the country, and threatening to destroy their infrastructure to the point of "setting them back 20 years". 
Wow, a group is firing rockets and capturing the occasional, dimwitted soldier, so lets go destroy an entire country. Its, quite simply, a ploy for territory. In that context, it makes perfect sense.
 Peace.
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THE KRAT BARON
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downforpot said:
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BlueCoyote said: The Jews mishandled their gift 'Israel' from England and America after ww2. So I see no problem with taking back this 'gift' or give the Palestinians their country (back). Good recognition, btw
Who did Plastine originally belong to? I believe it was the Jews.
There was no Palestine. That area was a part of the Ottoman Empire.
I was speaking of the General area. The Jews were the main inhabitants of the region long before Islam existed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Roman_times
The bible could also tell you this.
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I think it is referred to as a defense system, not an exceedingly overreactive offense. My point was that, so fucking what, Hezzbolah is lobbing crude rockets over the border, shoot them down. Don't put your soldiers in situations in which they can be kidnapped. You know, common sense, shit like that. 
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Um, Lebanon hasn't attacked anyone, although, by all rights, they should, since another country is destroying their airports, media network, and airbases because of the actions of a group in the country, and threatening to destroy their infrastructure to the point of "setting them back 20 years".
Um, you do realize that Hezbollah is an active, recognized member of the Lebanese government, right? They hold several seats in parliament.
I would be very interested in your explanation as to how a political party in a government can openly attack another country without that government being held responsible. Even so, the argument that Israel should sit back and allow attacks to happen without retalition simply because terrorist organizations are only loosely affiliated with recognized governments (for obvious reasons) is a weak one at best.
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