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OfflineGopal
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Re: i believe psychedelic induced OBE's are not real... [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5851492 - 07/12/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see how you could call one type of experience a "real" OBE and another as not real. A materialist would say they are both unreal and just a product of imagination. The important part is the experience. If you have an experience of being out of body then it would be and out of body experience. It is just way to describe a certain set of experiences, "OBE" is a symbol to represent different experiences which seem similar, a grouping which is just a product of the human mind. In your mind the symbol OBE is only correctly applied to non-drug experiences of being out of body. Thats just an opinion, one which is not shared by the majority here. It seems to me to be a bit pompous to assume that the only valid expereience is the type you are capable of having. You may be able to induce more profound experiences for yourself without drugs, but that may not be the case for others, and it doesn't make a very strong case for dismissing their experiences altogether. I have heard many descriptions of drug induced experiences which meet all your criteria for a credible OBE.


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: i believe psychedelic induced OBE's are not real... [Re: BobHumboldt]
    #5851494 - 07/12/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Having an OBE IS TRIPPING. Drugs or no drugs.


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Re: i believe psychedelic induced OBE's are not real... [Re: Gopal]
    #5853871 - 07/13/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Gopal said:
A materialist would say they are both unreal and just a product of imagination. The important part is the experience. If you have an experience of being out of body then it would be and out of body experience.




Just what I was trying to say. All subjective experiences of being out of body are subjective experiences of being out of body. Otherwise known as OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES. Unless you want to claim that some subjective experiences are more true than others, BS to the originial poster.


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