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Re: O.K. I know all the warnings I'm gonna get but... [Re: pod3]
    #5860429 - 07/15/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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To hear the mundane platitudes is to know their thought process to be carnal.




Change "know" to "reason" and I aggree. :smirk:
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These are the ones who have a doorway in their mind jammed open by something they have no interpretive system to deal with. They cannot help but to concentrate on a vaguery, and this eventually results in the damaging of a healthy brain, which may have never suffered permanently from minor toxicosis.

(Any moderately skilled healer should also catch an allusion to finer channels being broken by a stunning, energetic overload.)





Where does one acheive teachings that sensitize them to the breaking of finer channels? or is this merely an intuitive gift that surfaces in practice?
same with this "interpretive system." nature or nurture?

please let me know if my questions are flawed in case I misunderstood the meaning.  And if it's not too much trouble tell me what im mising here.


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    #5862070 - 07/15/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: O.K. I know all the warnings I'm gonna get but... [Re: pod3]
    #5863470 - 07/15/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I understand what youre saying, and I like your allegory.
it's good. it ACTUALLY fits. If I was to expand upon it, I would only be making a different metaphor to say the same exact thing.

Knowlage is ALWAYS practical if its true, or at least, if it alludes to truth well enough to simply BE practical, without itself being true.

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So, IMHO, drugs, behaviour, forced rule, meditation, yoga, and venal visions, are excluded as means of salvation for the soul. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not saved. Therefore, I stand by my generalizations about carnality.




still, you REASON this. thats my point.

Personally, I don't beleive in salvation. I beleive we get what we earn, and we ought to have it. Sad, but look what we have done. look at what we benefit from. And then theres every taint made by the individual.

now, CHRISTIAN doctrine dictates absolution for a single surrender to a simple but illogical premise. "faith"
specifically in christ as a messiah.

Iv'e not found myself to have a jammed door for a while.
Ive been both types tho, A sort of sudden and no-bones-about
metamorphisis. with a long transitional period of conflict.
A sudden flood of understanding blasted the nest in which nestled my infant spirit. whatever quality that i had learned by living, that enabled me to feel free and safe dispite the heavy burden of responsibility for an evil machination from which I (and all who live withought great pain) drew a comfortable existance.

Now, perhaps your definition of "Carnal" is more interprative than mine, but then, it's not a part of my personal vocabulary. Tho, i know of it.

Datura, is something i tried BEFORE this transition. And it was not terrifying. It did not do to me that which it did to those who came after me. In truth, It hardly had an effect dispite sleepyness, dryness, difficulty reading for days, and dilated pupils. I had always been able to control my inner energies, so well in fact i took it for granted. Never thought it was strange to be able to make a person jump just by willing controlled malice at them. Or make a person feel soothed by willing emotion of contentment into my arms and then, by laying on hands, into them.
Datura made tis energy surge.
it jolted up and down my legs, caused my arms to tense and twitch, but honestly, i considered this to be a side effect, what i had INTENDED was to experience halucinations.
i called it "discomfort", "edgyness", restlessness"
An effect i ALSO get from sleep-aid (diphenhydranate) and therefore AVOID them.
Not a good feeling.
Perhaps now, after all that doubt that i lived with was removed, and after ive evolved to live without it, i could walk the path you suggest.
but then, dispite the fact I undersand what you say, near-empathicly, I do not beleive datura would be truly useful to me OR others. even those who COULD use it. would not be able to truly benefit from it. That it would not offer LASTING insight that one could not grant ones self. Yet is more than capable of TAKING it away.

thats only what i suspect, not what I know.
THEREFORE, i "reason" it.


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    #5869366 - 07/17/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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