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OfflineNewbieS
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Dieting has me so confused.
    #5846833 - 07/11/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

This is kind of long, but it's in paragraphs so it shouldn't be too painful.

A little background:

I'm not fat and I'm not skinny but I really want to lose weight to get to that "normal" build.  Most, if not all of my fatty areas are on my torso and underarms.  I have a slight man-boobs (which run in the family), and my gut only really sticks out when I sit down.  I'm dieting and I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Here's a typical eating schedule for me:

5:00am - I wake up for work and have a bowl of cereal with some fruit.  Usually bran flakes or something high in fiber.  Sometimes it'll be a chicken Caesar wrap instead.

9:00am - First break at work, I eat a couple pieces of fruit.  A banana and a plum or two.

11:00am-2:30pm - I'll munch on various cut pieces of fruit (pineapples, watermelon, grapes, strawberries)  Working in the produce dept. has its benefits :thumbup:

After I get home I'll maybe have another bowl of cereal or I'll make a sandwich with whole wheat bread, lite mayo, American cheese, and turkey or ham.  The highest calories I take in come from Healthy Choice frozen dinners.  Anything else I eat after that is usually just picking or eating one serving.  I stop all eating by 7pm, go to bed by 10pm, and start the process over.


Once you start a diet you pretty much need to stay on it forever to maintain that weight, right?  I mean if I were to go back to eating fattier foods wouldn't that blow me right back up?  I'm not talking about pigging out, I'm talking about the content itself.  Pizza instead of a sandwich, or a meatball sub instead of fruit is a heavier load than what I'm doing now.  The exercise I get now at work, (lifting, carrying, walking around back and forth everywhere all day) would not be balanced with my food intake.  Am I making sense?

I don't want to diet forever, but I'm afraid that when I stop it's all coming back.  I don't have the money for the gym or I'd be there.  I know that's the obvious answer but I guess what I'm asking here is, Can I sparingly eat a normal variety of foods and keep weight off once I'm done a diet? 

I also have another question.  How fast does weight come back?  There are those days where I would just love to put a whole pizza in my stomach.  Say I were to take one day every 2 weeks or even a month to eat a relatively large amount of food, making that the second, or even only meal of the day.  Then return to the healthier foods for a week then repeat for a day.  In that one day, am I throwing my diet off track?  Would I be negating everything I've done that week or is this okay?


Sorry for all of the newb health ?'s, but this is my first serious attempt at a diet.  Thanks for reading  :wink:


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Newbie]
    #5846951 - 07/11/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Losing weight is simple math:

Take in 3500 calories more than you need to "run" your body = gain 1 lb. stored fat.

Burn off 3500 calories through exercise, or take in 3500 fewer calories than you need to "run" your body = lose 1 lb. stored fat.

Your daily caloric needs vary depending on your height, weight, sex & activity level.  Here's a calculator:

http://www.24hourfitness.com/html/fitness/fit_calc/daily/

As you your question about indulging now and then...I would say that it is fine, as long as you don't take it as an excuse to go on a binge.  Assuming that your basic caloric needs are 2000 per day, you would need to consume 5500 calories that day to gain one pound!

You don't need to be on a diet, per se, for the rest of your life, but you will need to remain aware of your portion sizes & the caloric "density" of the foods you eat.  (i.e. cheesecake is VERY dense--small portion high calories, leafy greens are not very dense.)

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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Newbie]
    #5847516 - 07/11/06 04:02 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I don't want to sound like a jerk here but: why don't you try exercising more regularly instead of dieting. (If you're already exercising regularly, I apologize).

This has the added benefit that you don't have to avoid as many of your favorite foods (though you'll lose weight faster if you do in addition to exercise), and that once you've improved your metabolism you can begin eating more of your favorite foods without fearing the return of the weight you lost, though as with anything else, moderation is the key.

Besides, the way you'll fear after a couple of weaks of exercise is SO much better than spending the same amount of time dieting. You'll have more energy, most people also report an improvement in mood. People who diet extensively, on the other hand, can feel tired more often, weak, etc. (though this is often the result of doing a bad job dieting, and not dieting in general)

Just something to chew on...


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Veritas]
    #5847868 - 07/11/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Do what I do any eat the same shit everyday.

Wake up and have a shake + steel cut oats(1), tuna + instant oats(2), steamed chicken + brownrice + corn or pasta(3), shake + steel cut oats(4), poultry, fish or lean red meats(5), cottage cheese, fruit or natural peanut butter(6) etc......

I usually eat these exact meals, except the last 2 meals are variables with a snack or two in between to regulate my caloric intake (didn't include the veggies, eat what you like). I cook a fuckload of chicken on sunday and pop it in the fridge. It's a lot easier.

Depending on your body fat, through a cheat day in now and again too. I have a cheat day every 5-7 days because it helps with leptin. Can't say that my diet's perfect but it's a LOT easier to manage than it used to be. I really need to tweak my diet, but again it's so little stress now that I've relaxed and standardized my meals.


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Newbie]
    #5848361 - 07/11/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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NewbieShroomie said:
Can I sparingly eat a normal variety of foods and keep weight off once I'm done a diet? 

How fast does weight come back?  There are those days where I would just love to put a whole pizza in my stomach.  Say I were to take one day every 2 weeks or even a month to eat a relatively large amount of food, making that the second, or even only meal of the day.  Then return to the healthier foods for a week then repeat for a day.  In that one day, am I throwing my diet off track?  Would I be negating everything I've done that week or is this okay?






1. Yes you can sparingly eat a normal variety of foods and keep weight off once I'm done a diet. You still want to watch what you eat, but You dont have to be a nazi about what you eat.

2. For some people, weight can come back very fast. How fast your weight comes back is an individual trait which noone can really tell you.

3. One day of the week of not sticking to your diet shouldnt be too much of a problem, as long as you keep it to one day. Many people say stuff like "oh, just today" and a few days later they say the same, again and again until they are no longer on any sort of diet...

The gym is always a good way to lose weight, but if you cant afford it, ext best thing is at-home workouts (cause theyre free...). Pushups, sit-ups, supermans, squats, jog around the block.


Ask yourself, how bad do you want it?  :tongue2:


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: eligal]
    #5885324 - 07/21/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've been on my diet for a few weeks now and it's working out well. I can alreay see results: Shirts fit better, tits are smaller lol, stomach is smaller...

Salads and wraps really do help shed the lbs. with enough exercise, (mine being my work). Eating smaller portions throughout the beginning of the day and fasting after 5 or 6pm is working well too. I binged twice since I started it but returned to the diet the next day and the results are still showing. I don't know how long I'll keep it up...I guess until I can wear a something smaller than an XL without feeling like it's tight.


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Newbie]
    #5885545 - 07/21/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Try to get a more physical job. Like I move furniture all day. I feel like I'm almost in the same position as you.. physically. I lost 20 pounds in the last 3 months. Without changing my diet (one meal a day, with some snacks often, and mind you chips/soda for snacks). Working 4 days a week. At my work I walk. A lot. Like all day, lifting and move on a metal cart, and walking back to my dock. And putting into cars. Get a job at a furniture place. Its like a YMCA membership that pays you.


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: MustNotBe]
    #5886736 - 07/22/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'd eat at night and not fast, cottage cheese + fruit, will help you lose weight if you eat it an hour or two before bed. It will also prevent muscle breakdown due to no food, so when you get lighter you have more muscle on your frame to show


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Ramlaen]
    #5887063 - 07/22/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Cottage cheese will not help you lose weight. It contains the ceasin protein, which is slow digesting protein that will aide you in the battle of muscle degredation while you are sleeping.


Eating at night is also bullshit. If whatever you're eating fits into your daily caloric limit, you're fine. The main reason why people SWEAR by this is because they are starving their bodies from 6pm to the next morning. That's over 14 hours of NO FOOD.


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Re: Dieting has me so confused. [Re: Chazzersize]
    #5889268 - 07/22/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

No kidding.

I can't go that long without eating. My body wants to waste away and get pinner. I drink a protein shake with steel cut oats before bed because I'm too chicken to eat cottage cheese. Though everyone swears by it.

I honestly think you SHOULD eat low GI carbs before bed. Christ, even if you're only sleeping 6-8 hours that's still no food or liquid going into your body.


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