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DankAne
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Power of the Mind
#5846690 - 07/11/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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And so I am sitting here realizing, the only thing that truly exists is the mind. We have no possible way of proving that anything else exists. Everything we see, everything we experience, is all our mind teaching us.
The one thing that surely exists is the moment. The perspective. And this perspective is the exact same for everyone. No matter where you may "be". The location you currently are at means nothing. You are seeing the one thing that we all are seeing. The perspective. That is a creation of the mind. Is there anything else? Is it even there? Is the way we see it the way it is?
There is no reality. What is reality? Reality is the way you see something. But this is tainted by your life, your insecurities. But what is it really. Is there a way to see pure reality and how things really are?
If we had the ability to see the truth, we would see that everything is one thing, and that one thing is the mind. Everyone is the exact same, only dealing with things in a different way. But where is the reality, true, pure reality?
That to me, is death. The truth is the mind exiting this imaginary place, and entering truth. the truth is nothing, it isn't there.
Well there are plenty of concepts in here lets go with them.....
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5846710 - 07/11/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should check out the Yogachara school of Buddhism which incorporates a conciosness-only philosophy at its essence.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Buddhism/consciousness.htm
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DankAne
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: Sinbad]
#5846718 - 07/11/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks brother, I will do that
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5846723 - 07/11/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dont thank me, thank your mind!
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5847930 - 07/11/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Esse est percipi
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5848328 - 07/11/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are things that the mind can see as objective and subjective. For instance, objective is the computer in front of you face that you are typing on, subjective being the thought of doing it all. As I write I am objectively putting subjective information from my brain into the keyboard and onto the monitor and into the interent, etc.
As you can see the internet is a tool for us to communicate our thought processes with eachother. An objective tool used to subjectively interface with people.
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: Droz]
#5848639 - 07/11/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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no, what we see is a symbol created in our mind for the light waves bouncing off atoms...
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faslimy
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but atoms don't exist!
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: faslimy]
#5848807 - 07/11/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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they dont
death=going down ima try tonight we shall see, going down is the same as going up right?
'and in the end you will come to find that we are all one mind'
ive been there, its weird as hell but i love it
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5849046 - 07/11/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please, you have no basis to propose that the mind exists. 
Some images move and you experience some "thoughts"... and where is the mind? Where is anything?
If you wish to be nihilistic, you might as well dive right in.
Your assertions have no value if one considers the context that they are implying. 
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Its true nothing really exists, not even our minds, we're no more than carbon copys of human history,
hijacked by UFO database, if that tickles your fancy,
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5849781 - 07/12/06 03:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DankAne said: And so I am sitting here realizing, the only thing that truly exists is the mind. We have no possible way of proving that anything else exists. Everything we see, everything we experience, is all our mind teaching us.
The one thing that surely exists is the moment. The perspective. And this perspective is the exact same for everyone. No matter where you may "be". The location you currently are at means nothing. You are seeing the one thing that we all are seeing. The perspective. That is a creation of the mind. Is there anything else? Is it even there? Is the way we see it the way it is?
There is no reality. What is reality? Reality is the way you see something. But this is tainted by your life, your insecurities. But what is it really. Is there a way to see pure reality and how things really are?
If we had the ability to see the truth, we would see that everything is one thing, and that one thing is the mind. Everyone is the exact same, only dealing with things in a different way. But where is the reality, true, pure reality?
That to me, is death. The truth is the mind exiting this imaginary place, and entering truth. the truth is nothing, it isn't there.
Well there are plenty of concepts in here lets go with them.....
i find it encouraging that others can pick it up and share it what ever it is it is huge and in it we can take refuge and learn and make art
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: capliberty]
#5849891 - 07/12/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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capliberty said: Its true nothing really exists, not even our minds
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we're no more than carbon copys of human history,
hijacked by UFO database, if that tickles your fancy,
No, it does not. You can't state "nothing really exists" and then start explaining the nature of existance. 
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The key is to keep life simple, some people think too much. And reality does exist cuz if reality don't exist than you would have the choice to die or to live forever but you don't have it. Reality is : You are born, you experience life than you die. Reality is all The Facts of life that can't be denied.
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Hee hee, *cues music* The Facts of Life!
Y'know, the theme song... from the show... oh nevermind.
"we're no more than carbon copys of human history,
hijacked by UFO database, if that tickles your fancy," --Capliberty
Heh, consider my fancy tickled. Wait, that sounds somewhat expensive, is there a charge for that?
"Some images move and you experience some "thoughts"... and where is the mind? Where is anything?
If you wish to be nihilistic, you might as well dive right in.
Your assertions have no value if one considers the context that they are implying" --FireworksGod
No kidding. If we're doubting the existance everything external to the mind, let's doubt the mind too. Unless you go in for Descartienne cop-outs and say the act of doubting proves the existance of the faculty capable of doubting. Easy enough to get around that one, just doubt doubt.
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SimpleThoughts said: The key is to keep life simple, some people think too much. And reality does exist cuz if reality don't exist than you would have the choice to die or to live forever but you don't have it. Reality is : You are born, you experience life than you die. Reality is all The Facts of life that can't be denied.
true, but have you any resevation to assume that your human interface is indeed denied when you choose it to be so. If I was insane, I woundn't know it. If I was dead, I wouldn't know it. Reality is denied. I deny it.
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fireworks god, can you ever be positive? do ever have nething even somewhat pleasent to say instead of always criticizing what and in what fashion people make there statements? no you dont so u might as well keep your mouth shut because no one wants to here you complain about what you think of what other people say. stop being so judgemental
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You got told brother
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Re: Power of the Mind [Re: DankAne]
#5882824 - 07/20/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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DankAne said: And so I am sitting here realizing, the only thing that truly exists is the mind. We have no possible way of proving that anything else exists. Everything we see, everything we experience, is all our mind teaching us.
The one thing that surely exists is the moment. The perspective. And this perspective is the exact same for everyone. No matter where you may "be". The location you currently are at means nothing. You are seeing the one thing that we all are seeing. The perspective. That is a creation of the mind. Is there anything else? Is it even there? Is the way we see it the way it is?
There is no reality. What is reality? Reality is the way you see something. But this is tainted by your life, your insecurities. But what is it really. Is there a way to see pure reality and how things really are?
If we had the ability to see the truth, we would see that everything is one thing, and that one thing is the mind. Everyone is the exact same, only dealing with things in a different way. But where is the reality, true, pure reality?
That to me, is death. The truth is the mind exiting this imaginary place, and entering truth. the truth is nothing, it isn't there.
Well there are plenty of concepts in here lets go with them.....
“If a hundred people sleep and dream, each of them will experience a different world in his dream. Everyone’s dream might be said to be true, but it would be meaningless to ascertain that only one person’s dream was the true world and all others were fallacies. There is truth for each perceiver according to the karmic patterns conditioning his perceptions.”
Perception is how you convey your thought to what you perceive to be reality
Check this out  http://www.meaningoflife.i12.com/Reality.htm
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JonnyDeformed said: You got told brother
Why yes, and tragic it is... my emotional state of being is unfufilled... I was exposed for what I am by someone whose impressive, critical thinking capabilities revealed all, the most effective psychoanalysis that I have ever received. 
Yeah fucking right. When it troubles someone that someone else does not accept certain expressions with the reception that they would have preferred, they find it necessary to react to someone else in a negative, defensive manner. 
The fact that they perceive a threat clouds their judgement and reasoning, as their interpretations of their senses is flooded with disruption and chemicals like adrenalin. This is what occurs in a gazelle, when a perceived threat (stirring in the grass and the image of a lion, or perhaps a sound associated with that image) is detected by one's programming. Their awareness becomes limited and they perceive every situation in terms of the potential threat.
I choose to not exist as prey, and I do not appreciate it when people who operate in a similar state of mind as prey disrupt the forum with accusations of predation by others, who are simply trying to express an idea in whatever manner they see fit to properly convey the idea. There are rules that specify the intent of this forum and certain manners in which we should not act, in order to fufill that intent. Notice that, in this situation, this individual has chosen to blatantly ignore that and lash out at others anyways, as though they have some righteous, superior sense of others and their behavior, and they choose to pass their enlightened judgement.
Which is why I originally, simply responded with a . It is ridiculous behavior and is amusing that some individuals would still exhibit such. Alas, evolution occurs very slowwwwwwwlyyyyyy. 
 Peace.
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