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Re: Tuesday terror: Six blasts rock Mumbai railway statio, as long as it furthers there cause....ns [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #5862611 - 07/15/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If we destroyed all of their gas, all of their planes, and all of their buildings they still would have fought for their honor. There was no short supply of army officers and infantry who were prepared to launch a coup. You know Churchill's speech about fighting the Nazis in England, think that but in Japanese as their slogan.

And you need to realize how important time was in the situation, you continue to disregard it as a factor. The US were not prepared to allow the USSR to over run all of Asia. It was central to the cause of ending the war as soon as possible.

And no one on the supreme war council nor Hirohito expressed grave concern over the first atom bomb. NO ONE DID A SINGLE THING FOR 2 DAYS AFTER THEY KNEW HIROSHIMA WAS DESTROYED. No meetings, no nada. These are the things you would know if you read JLD. The book makes it pretty clear that the destruction of both cities by atomic bombs played a huge role in Hirohito's decisions. What can be debated is how much the bombs weighed on the men in the army. Lets say, even if Hirohito would have wanted to surrender if they did drop both for show or only one(which i seriously doubt), maybe the coup would have then succeeded. Maybe the coup would have succeeded without the last raid. Who knows? What we do know is that the abombs were needed to end the war then and there which was absolutely necessary.

We killed more civilians firebombing tokyo and other cities than the deaths attributed to both the a-bombs blasts and their radiation... wtf are you talking about? If anything the abombs may have saved japanese lives because a mainland invasion would have definitely resulted in more dead japanese and arguably continued conventional bombing to stop the war would have killed more japanese.

seriously, read the book.


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Re: Tuesday terror: Six blasts rock Mumbai railway statio, as long as it furthers there cause....ns [Re: d33p]
    #5862993 - 07/15/06 08:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, guys. Back on topic. If you wanty to discuss Japan during WWII, please create another thread.

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