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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: avapxia]
#5851984 - 07/12/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've smoked salvia three times now and have had very different...but strangely similar events. The first time I felt as though I'd been turned into plastic, and so had everything around me. I could feel my skin as a soft, squishy plastic, and could feel stiff supporting rods (where bones generally are) that also seemed to be made of plastic, but thicker. I recall talking without intending to, and sort of "looking around the corner" when I saw lines seperating things. I could sort of grab onto them and pull myself around to see....something I still can't quite recall.
The second time was a day later and the first day's experience was still fresh in my head. I approached the trip with an Anthropologist's attitude and tried to understand what was going on. I again felt like I could grab onto things at the edge, but instead of pulling myself forward I peeled open layers to reveal exactly what I'd been looking at before. It felt like I was always going just a millisecond too slow to get to whatever was behind what I was peeling at. Very confusing.
The third time I'd thought I had things figured out, and I was going to concentrate on peeling through the layers. I did (and still do) want to know what's behind those layers. What I got was something completely different. Both other times I'd been in either a populated area, or in a room with a small group of friends. This time I was alone in the woods, and tried to show a bit more respect. I asked the salvia to help me get through the layers, and got some very different results. I took a big hit of the salvia, but not nearly as big as my previous excursions (I have a very large bowl used for smoking cannabis, and the first time I tried this 10X extract I packed a full bowl and nearly cleared it, having had little to no results with a 5X extract). As I took in the smoke a thought popped into my head "Why are you doing this?" I set my pipe on the ground behind me in a specific spot so I wouldn't do anything to lose it (I'm very attached). What followed was unsettling to say the least. I felt as though I were in some strange game show, mocking me. I remember hearing a voice, though I can't recall what it's said, and feeling resentment. I felt toyed with, tossed around. I got angry and thought very strongly, as one would yell something rebellious and challenging. I went to gather my pipe and was extremely dismayed that I couldn't find it. I got very paranoid that someone would discover me zonked out of my gourd, being toyed with by salvia, searching for my pipe full of resin. I decided I would head back to my car and sit there until the salvia's primary effects had warn off, and come back for my pipe. On the way back I noticed the effects were definately still there, and I stumbled my way through the woods oblivious to any path and scratching the hell out of my legs on every bramble and branch possible. I finally made it back out to the open and things were starting to wear off. I was cursing "that bitch" the whole time I'd been walking back. I got back to my car and found my pipe to be in my pocket, and drove away wondering what went wrong.
This has left me with a strange respect for salvia, and a cautious interest in seeing what else she has to offer. I certainly won't be doing this in the out of doors again any time soon, and I think I will try a small dark room, by myself, with eyes closed. If it hadn't been for my pipe still being in my pocket I think I would have abandoned salvia altogether. I've taken my third experience as a lesson to be very cautious and respectful, but I think with the right approach this plant can be a teacher of....something.
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Asante]
#5852080 - 07/12/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Close your eyes and open your mind
Which is key, because moderate doses of Salvia are many times more interesting when you close your eyes and let go of all prejudices about what it should be like.
My best experiances are with a medium dose for my tolerance level and all i do is lay back ALONE and dream....
Its made salvia a favorite of mine.
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Asante
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: BlindLemon]
#5853768 - 07/13/06 04:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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a medium dose for my tolerance level and all i do is lay back ALONE and dream....
That's it
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Asante]
#5859790 - 07/14/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you wiccan seeker, I have lead many of my friends on wonderful salvia journeys, and though I personaly have a very low tolerance some do not, and their tolerance must be learned, but I also believe some people do not have a strong enough mind to question their current view of reality, which strong experiences neccesitate, thus the "bad trips".
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Edited by ngnyus (07/14/06 09:13 PM)
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: ngnyus]
#5860324 - 07/14/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The times I've tried salvia it has seemed very bizarre. Very, very bizarre. That's not to say that I won't try it again. I still have a small bowl or two in my car that I just need to find the right time and setting for.
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Asante]
#6978314 - 05/28/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:You need a huge rip with a welding torch of 100x Extract, the smoke must be held in until your anus bleeds.
HAHAHA! made me LOL. great post!
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Jeroen198]
#6978553 - 05/28/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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>You need a huge rip with a welding torch of 100x Extract, the smoke must be held in until your anus bleeds.
I think that was generally a comeback for the people that say it doesn't work.
Most people I know who've tried it have told me it does nothing. My experiences were quite contrary, so you feel obliged to tell them they are not doing it right.
But I see your point, alot of people moan because the experience was too overwhelming for them. I just enjoyed loosing reality.
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Asante]
#8432790 - 05/22/08 12:52 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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i can not agree with you more. There are people out in this world that is just looking to get fucked up. You need to seek a certain wisdom or truth to actually enjoy salvia. This is not a recreation social drug to enjoy with your friends. That is where i think all these bad trips come from. You must open up your mind totally and prepare to explore salvia space, when you do this you will have a most excellent trip.
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: meggedu2]
#8433187 - 05/22/08 02:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is the coolest thread I have seen in a while.
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Re: The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed! [Re: Rose]
#8434494 - 05/22/08 08:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Every time I smoke salvia the body buzz is what really wigs me out. It just feels so weird. The setting I was in last time I smoked it definitely wasn't ideal I had just gotten out a swimming pool and wrapped up in a towel that was the same color as the carpet I was sitting on. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why or how my legs were melting into the carpet. I really liked the afterglow you get when you comedown though.
I would like to experiment more with the leaves after reading this thread. Last time I smoked plain leaves I never got very high, but I think now it was because the pipe was being passed around like marijuana. Salvia is kind of a solo or one at a time thing; its hard to get high passing the bowl.
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