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The most hidden secret insider-truth about bad Salvia experiences finally revealed!

#5845922 - 07/11/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

WHEN IT IS TOO INTENSE, YOU TOOK TOO MUCH

:rolleyes:

Yes, that is all there is to it. Check just about all the "salvia sucks" threads. People wail how horrible it was to give birth to their livingroom couch, but the thought that they took too much doesn't occur to them, nor to most of the respondents.

With most people, the intenser Salvia becomes, the weirder it becomes and the weirder it becomes the more likely it is to get weirded out and really uncomfortable.

People don't see the simple fact that they took too much because they did not get the effects they desired. Other effects however were way too strong. Usually this means that you want the drug to do stuff which isn't in its nature and refuse to accept the drug. This is a classic setup for a bad trip and is the result of lack of research and misinformation/misconceptions.

Breakthrough.
People echo over and over that you must "breakthrough" on Salvia to enjoy its effects. Nothing could be further from the truth. A "breaktrough" means nothing more than effectively ingesting a lot of Salvinorin in a short time. And, to be redundent: Getting too high on Salvia is very uncomfortable for most people. So all this talk of getting "breakthrough" only sets up n00bs for very unpleasant experiences. Salvia is not DMT. With DMT many people "need" the breakthrough in order to receive benefit, with Salvia it sets many people up for a violent transdimensional jolt. Snap out of the Pipe dream: Salvia is no "Legal DMT" so the sacramental laws of DMT do not apply.

You need a huge rip with a welding torch of 100x Extract, the smoke must be held in until your anus bleeds.
Bitch, please :rolleyes:

A common lighter or match flame is more than sufficiently hot to vaporize the Salvinorin. Too hot a flame can even burn much of the salvinorin in mid-air. It is true that Salvia should be smoked in one or two inhalations to be maximally effective. It is true that such a toke should be large.. But.. It is NOT true that you need a huge amount of Salvia because then you likely end up with using too much, and we get to read another "Sally Sux" thread.
Desirable amounts of properly inhaled Salvinorin for most people range between 0.125-1.25 miligrams of Salvinorin, typically 500mcg. Because leaves on average contain 2.5mg/gr, these effects can be had from correctly smoking 0.05-0.5 grams of dried leaf, typically 1/5 gram.
The typical amount computes to 40mg(5x) 20mg(10x) 10mg(20x) of extracts. As you can see with Salvia 10x Extract it is just a wisp of smoke, not a cone stuffed with the twentyfold thereof. If you hold the smoke for 20 seconds, you will get almost all of the effects of your toke and even if you hold it for 10 you would get a lot.

Then, to end this rant, a piece of great Salvia advice:

Close your eyes and open your mind

Which is key, because moderate doses of Salvia are many times more interesting when you close your eyes and let go of all prejudices about what it should be like. If you want to have your effects highly impressive with open eyes you need to smoke a lot more and then, you guessed it, you are in the doserange where its likely to get the transdimensional shock only few of us really appreciate. It is aloso far better to advance by repeated moderate doses than to take single high doses, for understandable reasons.

All this wrong use gives Salvia a bad name, so I hope this will help things a bit. If my semi-sarcasm offends you, you probably need to alter your smoking habits :wink:

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