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Mushroom provides mystical experience
    #5845917 - 07/11/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Was surprised to see this in a major headline..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13804613/


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Mushroom drug produces mystical experience
Two-thirds of study participants rated it as one of top events in their lives
Updated: 12:11 a.m. ET July 11, 2006

NEW YORK - People who took an illegal drug made from mushrooms reported profound mystical experiences that led to behavior changes lasting for weeks — all part of an experiment that recalls the psychedelic ’60s.

Many of the 36 volunteers rated their reaction to a single dose of the drug, called psilocybin, as one of the most meaningful or spiritually significant experiences of their lives. Some compared it to the birth of a child or the death of a parent.

Such comments “just seemed unbelievable,” said Roland Griffiths of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, the study’s lead author.
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But don’t try this at home, he warned. “Absolutely don’t.”

Almost a third of the research participants found the drug experience frightening even in the very controlled setting. That suggests people experimenting with the illicit drug on their own could be harmed, Griffiths said.

Viewed by some as a landmark, the study is one of the few rigorous looks in the past 40 years at a hallucinogen’s effects. The researchers suggest the drug someday may help drug addicts kick their habit or aid terminally ill patients struggling with anxiety and depression.

It may also provide a way to study what happens in the brain during intense spiritual experiences, the scientists said.

Funded in part by the federal government, the research was published online Tuesday by the journal Psychopharmacology.

Long-term changes
Psilocybin has been used for centuries in religious practices, and its ability to produce a mystical experience is no surprise. But the new work demonstrates it more clearly than before, Griffiths said.

Even two months after taking the drug, pronounced SILL-oh-SY-bin, most of the volunteers said the experience had changed them in beneficial ways, such as making them more compassionate, loving, optimistic and patient. Family members and friends said they noticed a difference, too.

Charles Schuster, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral neuroscience at Wayne State University and a former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, called the work a landmark.

“I believe this is one of the most rigorously well-controlled studies ever done” to evaluate psilocybin or similar substances for their potential to increase self-awareness and a sense of spirituality, he said. He did not participate in the research.

Picking up where the '60s left off
Psilocybin, like LSD or mescaline, is one of a class of drugs called hallucinogens or psychedelics. While they have been studied by scientists in the past, research was largely shut down after widespread recreational abuse of the drugs during the 1960s, Griffiths said. Some work resumed in the 1990s.

“We’ve lost 40 years of (potential) research experience with this whole class of compounds,” he said. Now, with modern-day scientific methods, “I think it’s time to pick up this research field.”

The study volunteers had an average age of 46, had never used hallucinogens, and participated to some degree in religious or spiritual activities like prayer, meditation, discussion groups or religious services. Each tried psilocybin during one visit to the lab and the stimulant methylphenidate (better known as Ritalin) on one or two other visits. Only six of the volunteers knew when they were getting psilocybin.

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Each visit lasted eight hours. The volunteers lay on a couch in a living-room-like setting, wearing an eye mask and listening to classical music. They were encouraged to focus their attention inward.

'Complete' mystical experience
Psilocybin’s effects lasted for up to six hours, Griffiths said. Twenty-two of the 36 volunteers reported having a “complete” mystical experience, compared to four of those getting methylphenidate.

That experience included such things as a sense of pure awareness and a merging with ultimate reality, a transcendence of time and space, a feeling of sacredness or awe, and deeply felt positive mood like joy, peace and love. People say “they can’t possibly put it into words,” Griffiths said.

Two months later, 24 of the participants filled out a questionnaire. Two-thirds called their reaction to psilocybin one of the five top most meaningful experiences of their lives. On another measure, one-third called it the most spiritually significant experience of their lives, with another 40 percent ranking it in the top five.

About 80 percent said that because of the psilocybin experience, they still had a sense of well-being or life satisfaction that was raised either “moderately” or “very much.”


Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (07/11/06 06:17 AM)


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: shroomaker]
    #5845928 - 07/11/06 06:14 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

shroomaker said:
Was surprised to see this in a major headline..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13804613/




That's awesome. I'm amazed it's actually good press...


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: razorbladeshoes]
    #5846125 - 07/11/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

wow.

this is very good.

it makes me want to do mushrooms...... hmm. or get some more mescaline and give it a proper go.

hey, everyone could go post something like this on freevibe pretending to be a little kid:
"If drugs r so bad, why do the mushrooms make people so happy? The news said it was true, why do you all say different?"

and post the link.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (07/11/06 08:41 AM)


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: leery11]
    #5846164 - 07/11/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

everyone could go post something like this on freevibe pretending to be a little kid:
"If drugs r so bad, why do the mushrooms make people so happy? The news said it was true, why do you all say different?"





That has a snowflake's chance in Hell of succeeding. Freevibe is moderated, which means in their case fully censored. Anything that isnt completely negative about drugs doesn't make it in there.

"Weed made me feel good for a while but then I got sick and puked blood" will not be accepted, because of the "made me feel good for a while" part.

Kids who hang out on Freevibe deserve Freevibe, and I certainly don't want them around any serious drugs.

I see an analogy between people being proud of NOT doing drugs and people on racist sites :wink:
I'm proud not to wear lipstick. Because I'm a real man. Damn that feels good :rolleyes:

But I rather have those kids of tremendous gullibility visit Freevibe than visit TOTSE with all its misinformation and pitfalls.
We don't want to promote drug use, but rather RESPONSIBILITY in drug use.


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: Asante]
    #5846191 - 07/11/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What a great result from a study funded partly from the feds. This a big step for psychedelics to get the respect they deserve than pushed aside, and hidden from the medical community. If you are excited or interested about psychcidelic stidies, and you don't already know about them, please goto: www.maps.org

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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #5846304 - 07/11/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

so what; will we have gov-t grown mushrooms soon ?

cuz i'd love to take some of the stuff they gave to those people

or yeah and some ritalin too just imagine the extremely focused mushroom trip lol


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: oathofsamurai]
    #5846474 - 07/11/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

everyone could go post something like this on freevibe pretending to be a little kid:
"If drugs r so bad, why do the mushrooms make people so happy? The news said it was true, why do you all say different?"





That has a snowflake's chance in Hell of succeeding. Freevibe is moderated, which means in their case fully censored. Anything that isnt completely negative about drugs doesn't make it in there.

"Weed made me feel good for a while but then I got sick and puked blood" will not be accepted, because of the "made me feel good for a while" part.

Kids who hang out on Freevibe deserve Freevibe, and I certainly don't want them around any serious drugs.

I see an analogy between people being proud of NOT doing drugs and people on racist sites :wink:
I'm proud not to wear lipstick. Because I'm a real man. Damn that feels good :rolleyes:

But I rather have those kids of tremendous gullibility visit Freevibe than visit TOTSE with all its misinformation and pitfalls.
We don't want to promote drug use, but rather RESPONSIBILITY in drug use.




interesting angle.

i don't mind the anti-drugedness so much as the lies. for instance this forum was pestering them a whie ago and i asked something about peyote in their message boards, well they posted something really lame like "why do people use peyote?" or something, which is not at all what I said... and they said "peyote can cause brain damage" and i told them to stop fucking lying, in a polite manner, and gave them the links to the study that showed NO brain damage whatsoever.

it is very much like racism.

and i kind of agree with you and kind of don't. most of freevibes viewers are naive children, children who might be very open to seeking and learning, and might be poisoned against a good experience.

that, and adults, and law enforcement go there, and they are like "oh my god my son is using peyote and it can cause BRAIN DAMAGE!!!!! and they start crying and saying "look at this..... you can't use peyote !!!!!! you're going to kill yourself."

I mean.... like my parents looked up DXM from a propoganda sight and saw that it can cause massive brain damage and death, and I had to tell them that though it is a dissociative and has some risk of brain damage, the only marked dangers of DXM use stem from taking ANOTHER CHEMICAL with it... and I tried to explain to him how that sight was talking about impure products with other chemicals alongside the DXM, not DXM itself.

if you do a google of "DXM abuse" a propoganda site goes up instead of erowid.org, dextroverse, or william white's articles.... or peer reviewed research on the effects of dissociatives on the brain.

i had to go scrounge up the studies on how most of the research on dissociative brain damage were faulty and based upon a fabricated study of meth instead of MDMA and how the information about DXM is inconclusive right now.

but that's a lot of reading. it's easier to read 3 sentences and form a biased conclusion.

if freevibe told complete truth but was anti-drug i would accept their existence.
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we will have legal marijuana.... legal mushrooms on the way? Or at least "medical mushrooms?" let's hope.

and peyote too :frown: it's absurd that peyote is illegal actually.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (07/11/06 11:07 AM)


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: leery11]
    #5848425 - 07/11/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

HAha wow I just looked at Freevibe.com it shows Signs & Symptoms of drug use and one sign is 'He drinks or uses drugs when he is alone' Did they really need to put that ? If you know he is home doing drugs then he is obviously doing drugs. That website is pretty dumb

and they have the Top 5 Anti Drugs and one listen is 'Tomarrow'

That website makes me fucking sick..and angry


Edited by Dr_Mcgillicuddy (07/11/06 08:01 PM)


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Re: Mushroom provides mystical experience [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #5848645 - 07/11/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Drugs pshh, more like tools


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