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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Breakthrough but no visual
    #5845442 - 07/11/06 12:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I have done saliva for a little while and I have reached the point in which I can usually break through every time, however, i never experience any type of open eye visual. Actually, the whole trip is basically a dreamstate in which all sounds repeat over and over like a stratched cd and i just feel happy. I'd like to experience open eye visuals and would welcome any advice on how to do so.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: jcasias]
    #5845518 - 07/11/06 01:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i can't say i've actually had open-eye visuals, per se, with salvia. i have done salvia probably about 30 times or so, but the only trips i remember specifically are the first and last...it's been probably two years or more since i did it last, and it was the strongest trip, on a 10x extract. i decided to dose with bjork's videos DVD in, and happened that the video for all is full of love was on when i took the last lungful; i remember morphing into the video somehow; the robots assembling in the video and i was being assembled and disassembled likewise. my consciousness zeroed in to the screen and it was all that was, and i was in it and it at the same time. hard time. not that it was a bad trip, but every time after i hear that song and go nearly catatonic...it only became bearable after a year or so. worse flashbacks than with the very bad lsd and then ayahuasca two hour later idea we had. salvia is chemically and experientially quite different than tryptamine-based hallucinogens...actually i believe it's an opioid receptor agonist or antagonist, can't remember which. i guess point of this long rant is i've never seen pleasant visuals with salvia like with shrooms or lsd or mescaline. not that they're unpleasant, but qualitatively very very different...like, reality is never entirely replaced with trippy visuals necessarily, but the plant seems to seriously interfere with the way the brain interprets sights and sound just slightly AFTER it enters your headspace, as opposed to AS it enters your headspace like with lsd. i totally get the repeating repeating repeating thing. i should say, i did three huge bongfuls of salvia once while tripping fairly hard on shrooms...completely blacked out for about five minutes. the people with me said i was conscious and still sitting up during that time, but i have no memory of it, so i would say no enhanced visuals therein. maybe, if i were cognizant at all.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: egodeathparade]
    #5845762 - 07/11/06 03:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I get visuals before the really strong effects.
as the effect gets stronger,
first visual dents or shadows as pieces of echoing vision overlap
then I might get CEV vines or OEV neon worms or OEV glassine reptillian or amphibian jeweled things on my skin or wherever the shadow begins.
then cartoon things but
then intense physical sensations might overcome me and then I can't pay attention to the visual realm as the trip has turned too heavy.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5846354 - 07/11/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

OEV? You mean seeing your carpet roll beneath itself or wall unzipping and sucking you into 2D tunnel? :wink: I never had anything else then more intense colors for few seconds or visions themselves. Maybe after my profound experience but I didn't care about visuals.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: jcasias]
    #5846397 - 07/11/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

With Salvia it is all about the closed eye visuals. You can't expect to take doses that REPLACE visual realty and expect to have a good trip.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: Asante]
    #5849085 - 07/11/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I've had visuals 3 times in all that were very noticeable and interactive. They would progress in intensity as the effects grew stronger. I always thought it was an adventure to have OEVs and it was.


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Re: Breakthrough but no visual [Re: Asante]
    #5849624 - 07/12/06 01:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:You can't expect to take doses that REPLACE visual realty and expect to have a good trip.



It happens every time :wink:


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