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Salvia extract question
    #5844407 - 07/10/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm planning on ordering some Salvia soon, and am hoping I can get some opinions on what exactly would be best for my intended use. I'm thinking that i'll try smoking mostly small amounts in a small metal pipe, just to get light effects, and hopefully the anti-depressant like effect that I noticed the first few times. However, I also want to be able to break through at some point, or at least get close to it. I guess what I really want is options, or the most versatile of what is available. For example, i may want to try a quid again also, along with being able to get the full range of effects from smoking.

As of now I have only smoked leaf, and just had light effects. So i'm wondering just how much of a difference the reverse tolerance can make? Also I won't be able to order any more for a while, so based on what I can afford my options are 3 grams of 10x, or 10 grams of 6x both non-standardized. Or there's 1 gram of standardized 20x, or an insane amount of leaf. Any opinions or advice will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #5844644 - 07/10/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Depends on how much smoke you can handle on the X you get... And I would rather use mushrooms to reduce my depression (work threw life).


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: MustNotBe]
    #5844860 - 07/10/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I cannot see how salvia can host an anti-depressant feeling. It has more of a tendency to scare rather than relieve. This is just from my personal experience and many friend's experiences with the drug. I started with 10x extract for my first time, now a couple hits of 40x and I'm soaring....or white water rafting for that matter.

If I were you, I would look into other drugs if you're looking for a happy drug. :-) Have a great day!


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: Nugarifik]
    #5845109 - 07/10/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I don't know why but I do remember feeling a bit better after smoking Salvia. Even if it doesn't help with that though, i'd still like the stuff. Your right, I wouldn't consider it a very happy drug either, I can see it being scary and very uncomfortable, but I think some good may come from it as well. I just don't know if 6x will be enough, even considering a reverse tolerance.

By the way, that anti-depressant feeling i'm talking about certainly isn't occurring right after smoking, but more after i've returned to a more normal state and for a while after that.


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #5845211 - 07/10/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm. You should give it another shot and see if you get a similar sensation. Smoking the leafs are pretty much worthless, I would go with the 1g of 20x concentrate. There wasn't a huge difference IMO from 10x-20x. And I couldn't see myself doing anything less than 10x for my first time (it also wasn't available)

Whichever concentrate you choose, it will def be different from the leaf intense-wise. Much more intense especially if you opt for 20x. Either way, it will be much better than the leaf shiz. :-)


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: Nugarifik]
    #5845345 - 07/11/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Nugarifik: be responsible. 20x extract with deep breath will send most of people into outer space! Besides he wants minor effects.

ImperialCactus: salvia can be great and I would say that x6 is enough for what you want to achieve. One strong toke can seriously change reality but shouldn't launch you into salvia-space. For me three tokes is needed for breakthrough but even one toke during meditation can do wonders. Respect her and good luck!


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: Kras]
    #5845990 - 07/11/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Kras is right. A lot has to do with state of mind. If you go into meditation, 1 toke of low x extract should be plenty seeing all you've smoked are the leaves.


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #5846025 - 07/11/06 07:49 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Look into extraction teks. If they seem doable (and some are very doable) then by all means get the insane amount of leaf.

If the Salvia 6x is about as good as alleged (usally "6x" = 5x which is good!) then 10gr 6x ofcourse pwns 3gr 10x. If you want the smoothest smoke get the gram of salvia 20x standardized, but your dose will be in the few-miligram range. Yes, few milligrams of extract!

The plain leaf (extracted, smoked or chewed) and the 20x you get the best bet, one is most Salvinorin+ lowest price, the other the most comfortable smoke+ highest price.

Salvia 10x tends to be a please-all (if you do not take too much) but it is unstandardized, which is easier to do right in a 6x, so that your 6x may be closer to 6x than the 10x to 10x.
But then again you can easily make 6x yourself, and 10x is harder.

The Salvia 20x may yield 100 doses, but the plain leaf maybe 1000.

Choices, choices..


Oh yeah, the antidepressant/moodlift effect of Salvia is very real and well-documented.


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Re: Salvia extract question [Re: Asante]
    #5848484 - 07/11/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all the advice, after thinking about it more i've decided to go with 10 grams of 6x, non-standardized. I don't mind the smoke, so i'd go with the leaf except that i'd rather not have to try an extraction and I don't think leaf would work well enough by itself.


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