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ShroomMan420
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: soulcircus]
#5850306 - 07/12/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Schwammel
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: ShroomMan420]
#5850477 - 07/12/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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so does spirituality just encompass happy thoughts or is it a mixed bag! I know these godly people that got it all figured out; they go to prayer meeting wednesday night and church sunday/ or saturday night if they are busy sunday. the rest of the week they are dysfunctional. is this considered macro schizophrenia?
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#5850495 - 07/12/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"When a person goes mad, a profound transposition of his place in relation to all domains of being occurs. His center of experience moves from ego to self. Mundane time becomes merely anecdotal, only the eternal matters. The madman is, however, confused. He muddles ego with self, inner with outer, natural and supernatural. Nevertheless, he can often be to us, even through his profound retchedness and disintegration, the hierophant of the sacred. An exile from the scene of being as we know it, he is an alien, a stranger signaling to us from the void in which he is foundering, a void which may be peopled by presences that we do not even dream of. They used to be called demons and spirits, and they used to be known and named."
"Schizophrenia used to be a new name for dementia praecox - a slow, insidious illness that was supposed to overtake young people in particular and to be liable to go on to a terminal dementia....Perhaps we can still retain the now old name, and read into it its etymological meaning: Schiz- 'broken'; Phrenos- 'soul' or 'heart.'....The schizophrenic in this sense is one who is brokenhearted, and even broken hearts have been known to mend, if we have the heart to let them."
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hippi
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they labelled me "schitzophrenic" cuase they had no other label . i was having psychosis tht was very spiritual. it happened 3 years ago. i saw lots of things i icant explain and no longer an athiest cause i know there is something more to the universe then we are taught and brain washed to see reality as it truely is. during my month long psychosis i became aware of alot of things about reality and how it works.but i had to relearn to trust my senses cuase my senses where playing tricks on me. id say schitzophrenia can be spiritual but its such a dark trip usually for sojme reason that we miss alot.i was seeing god and all that when i lost it 3 years ago i been together for 3 years now and ive had to start over learn how to think and move and live again cause the psychosis whiped my brain and then the psych drugs kinna numbed things..
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#5850977 - 07/12/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A shaman I met told me it is people who see into the spirit world and have no control over it.
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Schwammel
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: 905]
#5851072 - 07/12/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Why so can I, or so can any man; but will they come when you do call for them?....William Shakespeare
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: hippi]
#5851200 - 07/12/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I wish you a speedy return to consensual reality, and a firm connection to it when you are fully integrated and clear. From a stable condition you will be in the best position both to learn from your experience and to teach others.
Peace.
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Schwammel
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My daughter is sometimes crazy as hell. she hears things and she sees things that don't exist. she doesn't take drugs. I made a BIG mistake by allowing the school system to talk me into putting her on Ritalin. It took years to come off that shit and her weapon was alcohol. She still drinks occasionally but she likes working more than being crazy (money & power.) Not me; I like crazy but not out of control crazy.
Soo my question to you functioning schizo spiritualists is... waht are the tools of your trade? How do you deal with this rocky road?
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LuNaTiX
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#5855988 - 07/13/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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My medication, I tried two different kinds of medication, the second one works real well for me, im about 99% back to normal on Zyprexa. On top of this, I always have second thoughts about my thought process, I keep an eye on what im thinking and talk myself down if my thoughts get out of control. Sleep and minimizing stress are also important tools in controling my illness. The most important thing is accepting that you are ill, I mean I don't like being labeled so simply, but I know im sick and need my medication; but to each their own.
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Buddha5254
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: LuNaTiX]
#5856279 - 07/13/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is not spiritual. Im in a grad level abnormal psych class and not only are there chemical problems/differences in the brains of people with schizophrenia, but the brains dont utilize certain areas of the brain properly. Additionally, there are physical differences in the brains of people with this horrible fucking disease.
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#5856549 - 07/13/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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no...
I have schizophrenia, and it is no way spiritual... I believe I induced it upon myself through heroin addiction, and the use of psychedelics...
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#5856658 - 07/14/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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We are all spiritual A to Zea. use the spirit< >focus and decied what it could be like to be non-spiritual
aoo
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: LuNaTiX]
#16675104 - 08/10/12 05:50 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you have to take medicine for it im on medicine i would like to trip but i don't think i can because im on meds. But i was diganosed with schizophrenia and i still don't belive i have it telll this day i got put on drugs that made me gain a lot of weight and runied my health and mental well being.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Schwammel]
#16675676 - 08/10/12 09:53 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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existential angst, cosmic refuge, and transcendent transformative release are part of both spiritual quests and schizophrenic episodes.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Buddha5254]
#16675687 - 08/10/12 09:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Buddha5254 said: It is not spiritual. Im in a grad level abnormal psych class and not only are there chemical problems/differences in the brains of people with schizophrenia, but the brains dont utilize certain areas of the brain properly. Additionally, there are physical differences in the brains of people with this horrible fucking disease.
this is not the kind of claim that I have seen supported with experimentation and statistical reporting.
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Icelander
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: existential angst, cosmic refuge, and transcendent transformative release are part of both spiritual quests and schizophrenic episodes.
It's just one big ol party.
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circastes
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Icelander]
#16676868 - 08/10/12 02:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well sport can be spiritual, a walk can be spiritual, so why couldn't schizophrenia be spiritual?
If you get what I mean.
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: circastes]
#16676872 - 08/10/12 02:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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None of that is "spiritual" whatever that means.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Cactilove
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Re: Is schizophrenia spirtual? [Re: Icelander]
#16680274 - 08/11/12 01:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I beg to differ I have had a very spiritual walk before.
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