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mycelialmagic
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Flop Johnson]
#6681764 - 03/17/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Impending doom? Oh you mean death...right? Isn't that what most all entheogens are getting at? people call it ego death, enlightenment, communing with god or goddess, whatever word or words you choose. This is prep for letting go. Letting go of everthing, even the line between good and evil. That is the experience most all psychonauts are searching for. Mushrooms probably are much easier to handle, especially at moderate dosages. You did a great job at getting people to respond to you. Remember you are on your death bed, you are dying. It won't be long so you might as well accept it now. Impending doom !!! hehe Maybe a better substance would be Jesus or some religon with the everlasting afterlife. Then you can feel peace that life goes on forever.....enjoy the fantasy. We Love You
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GrizzyCappy
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Flop Johnson]
#6681821 - 03/17/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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MoeRon said: Salvia should be illegal and shrooms should be sold in stores, just my opinion.
Wow. Are you serious?
So - because YOU didn't like something it should be illegal, huh? That's how acid got illegal. Some guy in a suit decided it wasn't for him, and therefore - WE can't have any either.
Please don't think like that.
And yes, if you don't like that - you will hate acid. It will make you curl into the fetal position and suck your thumb.
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dandelionhunter
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#6681830 - 03/17/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't get so bent out of shape. You guys are totally missing the point here.
Freaky Funhouse Clowns are totally SCARY. They WILL eat you. I feel bad for you if you don't know that.
I'm with you man, DOWN with salvia.
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jiggety7
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Flop Johnson]
#6681850 - 03/17/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah salvia is wicked intense. its soooo much different than LSd though. With salvia you become so detached from the real world that you forget your own existence sometimes. With lsd it's like the world is kicked up a few notches and everything looks really cool and understandable. But dont get scared away from acid because of salvia.
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CFCID
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Flop Johnson]
#8042814 - 02/19/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm sorry but after reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that you are a total moron. Unbiased opinion - I have never done Salvia, but you are just... wow...
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Flop Johnson]
#8042960 - 02/19/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love this thread! 
I haven't smoked salvia in about half a year because it makes my brain hurt. DMT is better.
I still want to try salvia again, though, because it's obviously your own fault when you take a psychedelic drug and have an unpleasant experience. I figure I just need to be more mature.
BTW, don't listen to GrizzyCappy, LSD is an infinitely friendlier drug than salvia.
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skunkape
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: CFCID]
#8042965 - 02/19/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think salvia brings out certain things in everybody. When I have done it I feel like I'm being tricked or tested by the drug itself. When I feel that happening I can't help but try to fight it and get my head back to normal, usually resulting in a shitty experience. Salvias physical effects are very uncomfortable for me too. Prickly, hot, and sucked sideways.
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raceandsmoke
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: skunkape]
#8043394 - 02/19/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you should learn from your bad trips instead of turning your back and bitchig about it, i had more bad trips on shrooms then good(which sucks but there getting better) and each bad one i learn a lil more about myself and how i can be a better person in real life. Now when i ate 7 grams of my b+(forgot how powerful they can be) and had my worst trip ever the next day and following month life was great nothin brought me down.
thats my 2 cents take it or leave it
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: Shroomism]
#11501614 - 11/21/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I didn't read the whole thread and I know some people probably made the same points, but I'm going to share my opinion.
1. Salvia is not for recreational purposes. It is a spiritual teacher. I have broken through on salvia a good 30+ times, and I feel that I have a pretty good grasp on the experience. (subjectively speaking of course) In my perception of things, the salvia entity is an ancient goddess, that embodies the raw fury and perserverence of the spirit of nature in all its primal timelessness. Salvia is good for humans, in that it deconstructs the barriers of stupidity that we build around us. Salvia is especially good at scaring the shit out of people who are burrowed so deeply in these illusions that they lose touch with the true nature of reality. Again, this is just from my personal experiences with it. Contact with the salvia entity can be a gentle and refreshing breeze, or a terrifying hurricane that will destroy your entire neighborhood in seconds, depending on your perspective and whatever mental constructs you happen to have up at the time. Salvia is good at smacking some sense into you, whatever the case may be. This of course depends on what you decide to take from the experience. I could write a book on my perspective on the salvia entity, but this paragraph should suffice.
2. One fleeting and extremely subjective experience with a substance is not nearly enough to gauge its overall effectiveness in the entirety of the human race. It is certainly not enough to call it an evil plant from the depths of hell. Salvia has been used for thousands of years, by cultures from all over the world, without people thinking there were evil clowns trying to kill them. Salvia has a good way of projecting and magnifying one's inner thoughts in a way that is meant to smack some sense into you, and to some people, this can manifest in a terrifying manner. Fear is meant to be faced and learned from, not ran away from.
3. You say you are not a tripping noob, but you also say that you have never tried LSD... and that you think salvia might be like LSD because someone told you that. These are completely contradictory statements, so you will excuse me if I don't believe you.
4. In my experience, salvia breakthroughs are best partaken outdoors in nature.. preferably in a forest or large field, near a river or lake. I've broken through several times indoors, and it was not a very pleasant experience.. even being in the comfort and security of my own room. There is something about the unnatural and confined that salvia really dislikes, and will fight against. And salvia always wins. Nature always does. The best course or me is to sit quietly in nature, perhaps meditate beforehand, before I partake. Taken in the proper mindset, salvia can be extremely helpful in overcoming many mental barriers. I knew once you said you were in a friends room, with mirrors and christmas lights, that it was probably not very enjoyable. Set and setting my friend.. set and setting.
5. LSD and salvia do not even compare. They are not even remotely similar. They are in different galaxies as far as psychedelic experiences are concerned. I'd compare LSD to mushrooms before I ever compared them to salvia, but even that is a weak comparison that falls short.
6. Respect yourself. Respect salvia. Do it for the right reasons, in the right environment, with the right people, and you will have a completely different experience.
Hopefully you learned something from the experience.. but it sounds like you are just being negative about it, because you expected something different, and didn't like what you got. That was your first mistake.
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sputnik34
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: seraphnz]
#11501641 - 11/21/09 10:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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i love salvia. its intense and costs a lot, but damn is it fun
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: raceandsmoke]
#11503776 - 11/22/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting.... so you have had more bad trips than good. But still continue to take them.
I think I might fall into that category myself. Never had a really bad bad trip but have felt uncomfortable at times. I say to myself I wont take them again.... but then do.
I also feel better in the following days after taking shrooms. It just makes me feel better emotionally for some reason. I am much more tolerant of others and my family. So the question is.... do I continue to take them if sometimes they make me uncomfortable? I am not sure at this point.
I had a 20 year absence from tripping and just recently found them again. At first it was just so great... now its more of a learning experience... mushrooms are trippy. Are they your friend or foe?
I think friend with some knowledge to teach you...
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Re: Salvia is a bad drug. And it scares me. [Re: ilovephish1]
#11503829 - 11/22/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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this whole thread's retarded
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