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Oatman2000
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5846427 - 07/11/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have had greast success with casing brf cakes.... RR is right, MS inoculation is a crapshoot.
here is my success with 10 Brf cakes, they were as potent as hell... Treasure Coast
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AngeloWish
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Oatman2000]
#5846466 - 07/11/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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sorry im so noob u_u
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Roadkill
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: 76degrees]
#5846559 - 07/11/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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comparing shrooms off brf/verm cakes to shrooms grown off bulk substrates...
isn't like comparing mexican dirt weed to top quality kind buds!~
Listen to what RR had to say in this thread...
If you are working with a good quality isolate... it really won't matter what kind of substrate you are working with... potency wise!~
I personally think people are trying to come up with a way to grow more potent shrooms so they don't have to take so much. Lets face it...taking 5 dry grams or more of Cubensis isn't very fun!~ Trying to increase the potency of a Cubensis to the potency of Psilocybe cyanescens...for example. Is never gonna happen!~ If you want more potent shrooms...grow some of the other more potent species.
Just my take on things.
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Roadkill]
#5846603 - 07/11/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Observation, I've grown out a "substrain" with BRF that were not only weak but not meaty at all once these cakes were depleted the spent cakes went into the poo pile where they produced some very meaty as well as potent shrooms, I believe nitrogen content does contribute to potency as well as tryptophan content. I hear ya RR and Road but in my eyes this isn't a closed case yet.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: hyphae]
#5846983 - 07/11/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Agreed. However, we also know there can be huge differences in potency from flush to flush. It's hard to say what makes them more (or less) potent unless the same phenomena occur time after time. RR
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coda
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5846994 - 07/11/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i thought you knew by now roger, chuck norris's beard clippings are the only way to guaruntee some roundhousekickass mushrooms.
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ralphster44
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5847175 - 07/11/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psiloptile
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: ralphster44]
#5847268 - 07/11/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey, here's a question I have after reading all of this BRF hpoo back and forth. If you modify the PF tek to include hpoo in the substrate mix, would you get larger fruit/yields from cakes? Say you put two parts verm, one part honey water, .5 part BRF and .5 part hpoo..
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76degrees
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5847270 - 07/11/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: ...What right do people who have only made a few grows have to make such a claim? Do you see any old timers spouting such nonesense?... RR
Hey, uh, just for the record RR (with all due respect) it was Fastfred who told me BRF doesn't do much for potency. You would have known that if you read my initial post. I thought he was an old timer? It says "old hand" under his handle.
And from reading all of the responses here, I am no longer convinced that BRF is the cause of impotent shrooms. I will report back once I have tried some from this first grow.
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76degrees
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: 76degrees]
#5890449 - 07/23/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I tried some of my mushrooms grown on BRF and I've got to say I was not that impressed. I don't have a scale so I cant say for sure how mush I consumed. The last time I tripped was a few years ago and I didn't eat but maybe two or three fresh but tripped really hard. This time, I probably ate twice that in fresh, plus a few dry ones because I wanted an "Experience". So basically, I ate some - sat down to watch The Matrix and yeah I was feeling it, but it was very subtle. Not intense. Just mild at best. So... This time around, I am changing a few things but I just thought that I should say that based on my first grow with BRF, I might believe some of the rumours. But, I am willing to give it another try and report back in another month.
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FatPed
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: 76degrees]
#5891180 - 07/23/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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So would there be no way in raising the potency in a BRF cake?
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fastfred
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: FatPed]
#5891443 - 07/23/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Put a bunch of rye in it.
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