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beatnicknick
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God damn you and your roommate got slight visuals off a half eighth? Those are some pretty shitty shrooms, my entire world is usually patterns and artistic shit, moving around with visuals covering my entire vision, off a half eighth.
I'm praying my BRF cakes are going to get me like that off a half eighth. If not, I'm going with rye.
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BigBrassBed
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: beatnicknick]
#5843065 - 07/10/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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beatnick, I've never had any visuals off of anything less than 1/8. Are you sure that you're not getting store shrooms laced with acid?
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kristen
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: BigBrassBed]
#5843257 - 07/10/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who in the bloody hell would "lace" store mushrooms with LSD? You'd have to be the stupidest dealer in the world..
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monstermitch
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: kristen]
#5844144 - 07/10/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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by the way there is a major factor in brown rice flour that can differentiate one batch from the next potency wise dramatically...
that is if the brf was made at home by the grower with a grinder, or bought off of a store shelf. who knows how long is has been stored? this seems to have an effect on potency. so always make your own brf if you intend to use it.
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creamcorn
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: kristen]
#5844262 - 07/10/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
kristen said: Who in the bloody hell would "lace" store mushrooms with LSD? You'd have to be the stupidest dealer in the world..
actually just saw this while perusing another thread that in a study with 800 some samples of mushrooms bought off the streets, about a third of them were found to be inactive mushrooms laced with another drug. its really not all that unrealistic to dilute LSD, soak "inert" mushrooms in the liquid and allow them to dry again, and could be quite profitable from a dealers' perspective in an area where LSD is more common than mushrooms.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: creamcorn]
#5844306 - 07/10/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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gotta agree with the old guys on this one....brf sucks. poo straw mix grrrrrrrrrrreeeatttt. one day you will know the difference
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Professional
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#5844461 - 07/10/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had good experience w/BRF. Shrooms were huge and potentcy was great.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Professional]
#5844469 - 07/10/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Compared to what?
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beatnicknick
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5845364 - 07/11/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Based on the varied results, I'd say that it's not the substrate but the substrain, which will change every time you use a new spore print. So, in conclusion, if you have not-so-potent shrooms you can sell them all and make another batch, and continue this until you have a batch of very potent shrooms and try to continue that strain/method to continue the process.
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: beatnicknick] 1
#5845410 - 07/11/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont sell drugs
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Yamidude
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Atheist]
#5845566 - 07/11/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpicyTunaRoll said: dont sell drugs
your name and sig make me hungry.
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unseenat17
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: Yamidude]
#5845629 - 07/11/06 02:26 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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>brf sucks. poo straw mix grrrrrrrrrrreeeatttt. one day you will know the difference
oh...no...i have a friend thats willing to mess with hpoo and straw since he lives in the country...and they are great...no doubt. But i have no problem eatin 5 grams to get the same trip you have with 2-3 grams. With 12 cakes going...i have too much excess anyways. My shrooms jus keep buildin up and up and i dont have to deal with poo.
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beatnicknick
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: unseenat17]
#5845784 - 07/11/06 03:47 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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True, if it's only that little of a difference and you have a shit load of shrooms anyway, I guess potency really isn't that important unless you're growing bulk (because you're obviously selling)
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4taylor2made0
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: beatnicknick]
#5845799 - 07/11/06 04:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive recently had my first brf cakes fruit, and ive come to find that the resulting mushrooms, though small in stature and prolific in numbers, are very much more potent by mass than almost any ive gotten anywhere else. golden teacher spores101. quite happy with these results.
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stormhalter
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: 4taylor2made0]
#5845960 - 07/11/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, I wish I never read this post. I'm about to start my first cultivation and had decided to use BRF after reading around on a few Teks and lurking in the forums.
I suppose I'll start with cakes and in the mean time start reading up on casing, since that seems to be the way to go, with h poo.
I live in the country and I can't find horse poo anywhere, pretty lame.
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AngeloWish
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: stormhalter]
#5845985 - 07/11/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Two basic words for ptency:
grain, poo
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Edited by AngeloWish (07/11/06 07:20 AM)
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stormhalter
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: stormhalter]
#5846002 - 07/11/06 07:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm starting to see that as I read on. I'm going to start with PF Cakes first though, and move up progressively. (:
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EquilibriuM
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: stormhalter]
#5846161 - 07/11/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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cakes are great to start with. Just want to make that clear.
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AngeloWish
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5846305 - 07/11/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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PF Cakes work great for colonizing poo. I luv how those cakes turned into little chunks work as innoc points all over the shyt.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: BRF isn't very good for potency. [Re: AngeloWish]
#5846366 - 07/11/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the record, THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT POTENCY IS SUBSTRATE RELATED. Sorry for the caps, but the disinformation in this thread makes me want to scream. What right do people who have only made a few grows have to make such a claim? Do you see any old timers spouting such nonesense?
Some strains turn out to be bunk. That is a fact. By 'strain', I mean the isolate that you end up with from multispore inoculation, not some particular vendor named strain. If a newbie grows on brf and gets a bunk strain, he tells everyone that brf is crap. If he grows again on horse manure and gets a good isolate, he tells everyone that horse manure rules. Get a grip people.
Size and substrate material will affect the total yield of your crop. Some very experienced growers around here use nothing but brf cakes for one reason. They work. Personally, I prefer horse manure, but it's not for the potency, but the yield and ease. If you use a substrate that provides basic food, your mycelium will do the rest. If I see another brf sucks thread, I think I'll puke. RR
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