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Murit
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An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much...
#5841314 - 07/10/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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okay, so here's the deal...I know that in most of the sterilization teks on here all the things say to sterilize for rather long periods of time (no less than 30 minutes) but is this REALLY nessessary? The reason I question this is as follows... When I sterilized my own cakes, I used a standard pasta pot that would fit 5 at a time perfectly. I brought the water in the bot to a boil...then set in my jars (atop a washcloth so as not to cook the substrate from letting it sit on the bottom) I would then stand back and watch it boil while I smoked a cigarette. When the cigarette was done (aproximately 8 minutes) I pulled the jars out and put them away to cool and proceeded with the next, smoked another cigarette, etc... This was nearly a week ago and not a single one of my jars has started showing signs of contam. Am I simply lucky? or is it that such a long period of time isn't really needed to sterilize?
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fastfred
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Re: An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much... [Re: Murit]
#5841320 - 07/10/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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They'll probably all be contamed in another week.
It takes 15min @ 120C to sterilize something. That doesn't include the time it takes to heat up to temperature. For each 10C lower temperature it takes double the time to sterilize. The lower the temp the less things you are going to kill also. There are plenty of organisms that can withstand 100C indefinitely.
Boiling jars for 8 min isn't going to do anything to them. You might note that you can prepare the jars and leave them sit for almost a week before they'll start to contam. You might have killed the majority of organisms that were against the glass, but other than that you did nothing.
We're not just bullshitting about sterilization to be dicks.
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KaptKid
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Re: An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much... [Re: fastfred]
#5841339 - 07/10/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
fastfred said: They'll probably all be contamed in another week. -FF
Got to agree. Patience. Follow the teks but trying is learning.
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Murit
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Re: An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much... [Re: Murit]
#5841341 - 07/10/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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And yet again, I feel completely retarded next to the might of your brain, fred. Thanks again.
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mikeownow
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Re: An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much... [Re: Murit]
#5841354 - 07/10/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok I havent smoked weed for a wile so I am a lightweight and I just read this thread and it was the most funny thing I have read in a long ass time.
I have no clue what this guy was thinking. Or what I am thinking.
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Re: An hour of steaming? seems a bit too much... [Re: Murit]
#5841357 - 07/10/06 03:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i do almost the same thing and i only got 2 contam cakes out of like 40. i take a pasta pot that fits 5 perfect and i put a plate on top that is a good fit. )it is a heavy plate) i boil for 25-45 min depending on if i am really busy. but i like to go over a half hour. and i leave them in the pot over night. in the hot water with the plate on top and when i come home from work the next day i do the next step. works like a charm. when i do bird seed with the ouart jars i have 2 pots and one has a lip and fit perfect on the other pot upside down. i can fit 4 of those. but i am still going to get a pc. i want something big and can do alot. but the tek works for some.
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