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Incubation question
    #5840982 - 07/10/06 12:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, just finished making my first spore syringe and PCing my new jars.

tommrow I will be putting them into my incubator. The thing is my incubator is a clear tub and I don't know whether or not they mushies have to be in the dark. Will it matter if I just put them in a closet and leave em for a while?

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(oh and by the way heres a pic of my spore syringe.. i thinks its a bit dark eh?? lol

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Re: Incubation question [Re: deXtrous]
    #5841070 - 07/10/06 12:30 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

you can cover with a black garbage bag

or a small blanket

if your closet is somewhat dark you might not even need to


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Re: Incubation question [Re: Atheist]
    #5841366 - 07/10/06 03:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i think there was a thread that RR said that you dont have to put them in the dark but that is the way i was tought and i put mine in the dark so i am going to agree with spicey


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Re: Incubation question [Re: royer]
    #5841391 - 07/10/06 04:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

You want them to be in the dark because mycelium doesn't need light to grow but alot of contams do.

Plus light is a trigger for pinning so you dont want them to start to pin early


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Re: Incubation question [Re: mrmonkey]
    #5841411 - 07/10/06 04:40 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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mrmonkey said:


Plus light is a trigger for pinning so you dont want them to start to pin early






Bingo!!


Most contams are also different types of fungi and do not need light to grow.


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Re: Incubation question [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #5841420 - 07/10/06 04:59 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

when the cake is fully colonised with myc can I take it out for some light (while still in jar) to trigger pinning then birth the fuckers! ??


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Re: Incubation question [Re: deXtrous]
    #5841509 - 07/10/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

yes.


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Re: Incubation question [Re: Murit]
    #5841586 - 07/10/06 07:23 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Light is only one of the pinning triggers. I hate that it is so horribly overrated and misunderstood even after all these years. There is no reason or need to keep colonizing jars in the dark, period.

Light only becomes one of the pinning triggers when full colonization is reached and a decrease in CO2 levels is realized. The time to give your mycelium darkness is for a few days before you birth pf jars, or if you spawn to bulk, keep colonizing bulk substrates and casing layers in the dark by covering with foil until you are ready to induce fruiting by increasing air exchange. When you remove the foil from a fully colonized cased substrate, you simultaneously increase air exchange and provide light, therefore all your pinning triggers are working together at the same time.

Remember, primary pinning triggers are full colonization and an increase in air exchange with a corresponding decrease in CO2 levels. Once these conditions have been met, light becomes a secondary pinning trigger.

During initial colonization of brf or grain jars, the primary pinning conditions have not been met, so light is not a factor. You can look at your colonizing jars all you want in normal indoor room lighting. I've never seen a jar pin early prior to full colonization unless something else was wrong, such as too little or too much moisture, or a contaminant. Such will kick in the natural survival response to reproduce.
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