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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: Shroomo]
    #5839332 - 07/09/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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how can some people think weed is not a dug? what the fuck!




define the word drug!

by most definitions, SUGAR is a drug too! :rolleyes:


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: Shroomo]
    #5839345 - 07/09/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

well i use to do drugs for more than half my life but there is a time where all the wrong people bring you down and you want more than to be poor and high all the time. i wasted too many years being high . also i lost to many friends to the same stuff that i was in to and i will never see them again because there dead .now i only do it maybe 1-4 times a year any more than that and i am afraid that my addiction will grab ahold again.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: blink]
    #5839420 - 07/09/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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how can some people think weed is not a dug? what the fuck!




define the word drug!

by most definitions, SUGAR is a drug too! :rolleyes:




blink by all means weed is a drug... i'd rather everyone would call suger a drug then let people belive weed is as benign as lettece :shrug:

befor i started smoking heavely (and it wasn't nearly as heavy as some people do) i'd probably talk the same as you and boom but no more! weed has the potential to fuck with you and should defently be approched with respect... where alcohol can cause a big headache and some puking (besides fucking your liver and all that) weed can fuck with your mental state which can sometimes be devestating to some people (espacialy if they don't have the tools to deal with that kind of state!)


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839422 - 07/09/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Well I DO use drugs, for entertainment, enlightenment, as a past time, or whatever.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: Simisu]
    #5839436 - 07/09/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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how can some people think weed is not a dug? what the fuck!




define the word drug!

by most definitions, SUGAR is a drug too! :rolleyes:




blink by all means weed is a drug... i'd rather everyone would call suger a drug then let people belive weed is as benign as lettece :shrug:




My point is to tell him to stop complaining/arguing without defining what he's talking about.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: blink]
    #5839441 - 07/09/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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My point is to tell him to stop complaining/arguing without defining what he's talking about.




:grin::thumbup:


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: blink]
    #5839444 - 07/09/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

food is a drug. lots of peopel use food the same way others use drugs. bad food too. it leads to health problems and gross obesity


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5839482 - 07/09/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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food is a drug. lots of peopel use food the same way others use drugs. bad food too. it leads to health problems and gross obesity




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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839503 - 07/09/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think of psychedelics more as tools, not just a "drug."  I can't deny how my life/mind state has improved since I started using them.  I feel so dramatically different since I started tripping. Shrooms, LSD, mescaline...I love them all.  I can see myself getting to a point where I'm not tripping as frequently, but I suspect I'll always be a tripper for life. 

Unlike most people here, pot is what I'd like to cut back on.  But I'm always wanting to cut back on the pot (as she loads a vaporizor bowl  :tongue2:).


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: MOTH]
    #5839517 - 07/09/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I think as long as you are using it as a 'tool' it's no longer a 'drug'.  Mind you, the government wholeheartedly disagrees with that sentiment...  :crazy:

Everyone has different ideas, different perpectives and different motivations.  Wether you use, or you don't use....do you know why?  Or is that just the way that it is?  Do you choose to use?  Or is it just available and convienient?  Do you choose not to?

I choose not to. (save for one recent experience being the first in 4+ years)


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839597 - 07/09/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I think as long as you are using it as a 'tool' it's no longer a 'drug'.  Mind you, the government wholeheartedly disagrees with that sentiment...  :crazy:

Everyone has different ideas, different perpectives and different motivations.  Wether you use, or you don't use....do you know why?  Or is that just the way that it is?  Do you choose to use?  Or is it just available and convienient?  Do you choose not to?

I choose not to. (save for one recent experience being the first in 4+ years)




yeah i totally agree!

weed isn't that enjoyable to me unless it helps me in some way... just sitting around doped is ok but that'd often make me start to think about things and get tangled up and paranoide
where as when i'm dancing, playing music or learning something i find it really helps!
it loosens me up and makes me focused on a specific task!
that's why i don't complitly right it off... i just have to listen to my instincts and only toke when it has a good perpuse!

as for mushrooms... i have many reasons to explore that path and only after i find out all i can i'd be able to make up my mind on how and if i want to keep doing them!


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839632 - 07/09/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

For me...it started as an act of curiousity, plus a dash of "escape from reality."

Why I use now...to keep myself from getting too comfortable in my own life. It's a way of lifting my blinders and noticing what I've been missing, oftentimes right in front of me all along. Psychedelics are like magnifying glasses for my soul. Sometimes it's hard to see what's there...but I have to look anyway. It's a way of facing the fear of both life and death. I like to challenge it.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: MOTH]
    #5839645 - 07/09/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

just dont rely on psychedelics too heavily


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839655 - 07/09/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm schitzofrenic, found out a few months ago, Im only allowed to drink now, but I hit the occasional doobie now and then. If it were up to me, I'd keep smoking pot, but I stay clear of it for my family, I put them through alot when I went insane; whole buncha cop shit, hospitalization and whatnot, they just don't deserve that again.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: CherryBom]
    #5839659 - 07/09/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I'm one of those weird "on the fence" people.  I have no problem with people engaging in recreational drug use.  And, there are certain substances that I will do.  But, most substances are just not enjoyable for me anymore.

If someone shoves Special K or cocaine in front of my face at a party then I'll do it.  I like the high that those two drugs give.  But, I would only do those drugs maybe once or twice a year...if that.

I no longer like the highs of marijuana, psychedelics, or opiates.  They just aren't fun or the side-affects are so bad that it makes them not worth it anyway.  :shrug:

And that's where I am with drugs.  I've probably told that story about a million times in the Pub when people ask with shock "why are you on the Shroomery if you don't do drugs?".

I do like alcohol though.  :cool:


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: LuNaTiX]
    #5839665 - 07/09/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm schitzofrenic, found out a few months ago




Holy crap! I feel for you...  :sad:

What sort of feelings do you get??? Do you yourself think it's a correct diagnosis???


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: MOTH]
    #5839674 - 07/09/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

For me psychedelics bring reality into a clearer focus. Whatever has been bothering me gets worked out and I emerge from my trips healed. At the same time, taking acid is an incredibly enjoyable experience.

At the same time, I think if I started using drugs much earlier I wouldn't use them in the same way. Studying drugs on alt.drugs and then on the Lycaeum and the Shroomery when they were formed and participating in discussions allowed me to use drugs in the most positive way possible when I was ready. (I've actually used the Shroomery since its first year but I didn't decide to post until a couple of years ago).


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5839685 - 07/09/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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just dont rely on psychedelics too heavily




If I were to do that, I haven't learned anything from them.

The key is manifestation, and you can't manifest if you're tripping constantly.


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: LuNaTiX]
    #5839693 - 07/09/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

To be honest, I thought my cannabis use was the road to schizophrenia, hence why I quit...


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Re: Howcome you DON'T do drugs? [Re: Amatoxin]
    #5839702 - 07/09/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Cannabis use had a way of introverting my thoughts, and thats something I can't stand. I like to communicate, but it gets too difficult when I'm high.


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