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5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case
    #5838129 - 07/09/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four more U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fifth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman and the killings of her relatives in Mahmoudiya, the military said Sunday.

The five were accused Saturday following an investigation into allegations that American soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division raped the teenager and killed her and three relatives at her home south of Baghdad.

Ex-soldier Steven D. Green was arrested last week in North Carolina and has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder.

The U.S. statement said the five soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

One of the soldiers was charged with failing to report the attack but is not believed to have participated in it directly, the statement said.

The names of the four soldiers were not released.

The March 12 attack on the family was among the worst in a series of cases of U.S. troops accused of killing and abusing Iraqi civilians. U.S. officials are concerned that the alleged rape-slaying will strain relations with the new U.S.-backed government and increase calls for changes in the agreement that exempts American soldiers from prosecution in Iraqi courts.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has demanded an independent investigation into the case, which followed a series of allegations that U.S. troops killed and mistreated Iraqi civilians.

According to an FBI affidavit filed in Green’s case, Green and at least two others targeted the teenager and her family for a week before the attack, which was not revealed until witnesses came forward in late June.

The soldiers drank alcohol, abandoned their checkpoint, changed clothes to avoid detection and headed to the victims’ house, about 200 yards from a U.S. military checkpoint in the so-called “Triangle of Death,” a Sunni Arab area south of Baghdad known for its violence, the affidavit said.

The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals.

Green is accused of raping the woman and killing her and three relatives — an adult male and female and a girl estimated to be 5 years old. An official familiar with the investigation said he set fire to the rape victim’s body in an apparent cover-up attempt.

Iraqi authorities identified the rape victim as Abeer Qassim Hamza. The other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza; her mother, Fikhriya Taha; and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.




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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5838258 - 07/09/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What a bunch of animals


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5838833 - 07/09/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Bunch of fuck-ups, but they exist everywhere. I'm sure that in the past few weeks, a gang of blacks probably gang-raped a white female, but I guess that just doesn't fit into what the media bosses want us to hear. These soldiers should be fried.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5838995 - 07/09/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals."

that's terrible


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: David_vs_Goliath]
    #5839004 - 07/09/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times.

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: downforpot]
    #5839281 - 07/09/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What about the "honor killings" of women in Iraq etc.? If a woman brings shame to the family through allegations of premarital or extramarital sex including forcible rape, by refusing an arranged marriage, or attempting to obtain a divorce, her male relatives are bound by duty and culture to murder her. And, it's legal in Iraq etc. and claims hundreds of lives a year.

That poor girl might have been murdered by her own father in just such an "honor killing" had the soldier raped her and left.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5839288 - 07/09/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, but if that happened, you know that the lefty media wouldn't be bringing it up to make the US look bad.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: downforpot]
    #5841082 - 07/10/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times.

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.




"13 year olds getting raped" wasn't "common during Biblical times". People back then may have had very young wives, but men going around raping any young female they wished is not an accurate historicity.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5841086 - 07/10/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Bunch of fuck-ups, but they exist everywhere. I'm sure that in the past few weeks, a gang of blacks probably gang-raped a white female, but I guess that just doesn't fit into what the media bosses want us to hear. These soldiers should be fried.




Soldiers doing bad things are Iraq war related news, which tends to generate more public interest than some random criminal in the States.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5841372 - 07/10/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

would i be considered a far left winger if i said those soldiers are innocent?
i wonder how they identified them presuming they killed all the witnesses?
didn't one of their own narc them out?
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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: quiver]
    #5842130 - 07/10/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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would i be considered a far left winger if i said those soldiers are innocent?





No, not at all.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5846989 - 07/11/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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That poor girl might have been murdered by her own father in just such an "honor killing" had the soldier raped her and left.




they didn't rape her and leave her though. they raped her and then murdered her whole family.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
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    #21482136 - 03/31/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Basilides]
    #21482628 - 03/31/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times. 

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.




"13 year olds getting raped" wasn't "common during Biblical times". People back then may have had very young wives, but men going around raping any young female they wished is not an accurate historicity.




Lol what history books do you read?

God even commands rape in the bible, it was quite prevalent.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21482653 - 03/31/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.  leave those soldiers in the stocks overnight in the victims village.  Let the people have their way with them.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_humiliation


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #21482672 - 03/31/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

yeah right, soldiers get coddled by the judicial system even more than police do.


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    #21528745 - 04/10/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I can't believe people are blaming the media for reporting soldiers raping little girls. What the fuck is wrong with you people?


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21529204 - 04/10/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

IN America we arrest them and try them and if the evidence supports it we convict them and fuck their shit up.  How do rape allegations go under sharia law?


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21529330 - 04/10/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Things are handled differently in military courts than in public courts. If they were tried in Iraq, they would be brutally murdered. The girl probably would too. Theocracies always advocate murder. That's why church and state must be separate entities.

The Republican and Tea Parties have been working hard to merge the two, but America won't accept that.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21529472 - 04/10/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

More bullshit.


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    #21529491 - 04/10/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

What is bullshit?


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21529524 - 04/10/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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That's why church and state must be separate entities.

The Republican and Tea Parties have been working hard to merge the two, but America won't accept that.





I do not think you have any fucking clue about the American electorate and I would suggest a reading of the Declaration and the Constitution for a clue about founding attitudes in re religion.

I myself am an atheist but I am not ignorant about this country.  They would never elect an atheist.

I liked Rand Paul's answer to the bint reporter who asked him about abortion. 

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Debbie says she's cool with Kermit Gosnellhttp://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/justice/pennsylvania-abortion-doctor-pills/

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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21529680 - 04/10/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Sure, there are lots of religious folks in this country. However, whenever a presidential candidate gets too preachy with the religious nonsense they quickly fall out of favor. No, America doesn't want an atheist president. That is less likely than a black or female president. They also don't want a theocracy. Except maybe down in Alabama or some other hillbilly state.

It is clear to many people in this country that theocracy leads to situations such as the one in the middle east, and the one the settlers fled when they came to America. Our involvement in the middle east has put a powerful lens on theocratic government.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21529713 - 04/10/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

The settlers who came to America were intolerant religious freaks who only fled Europe because of other intolerant religious freaks so that they could set up a theocracy of their own.  They did not found the country as that happened many decades later but you really have no fucking clue about the role of religion in either the founding or the current composition of religion in America.

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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21529774 - 04/10/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

They fled theocracy, and we can look back and see that. That is my point. The settlers were comprised of several different Judeo-Christian religious beliefs, and all of the core documents speak of freedom from religious persecution.


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    #21534509 - 04/11/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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They fled theocracy, and we can look back and see that. That is my point. The settlers were comprised of several different Judeo-Christian religious beliefs, and all of the core documents speak of freedom from religious persecution.




The Pilgrims were theocrats


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21534525 - 04/11/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

And most of the founding fathers were deists.

So what?

It doesn't really matter what role religion played. Slavery played a role too, we're not still clinging onto that memory.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21534561 - 04/11/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Please show me the passage in either the declaration or Constitution that uses the phrase "separation of church and state".  God is all over both documents.  So far there have been no amendments to change that, unlike for slavery and prohibition of alcohol.


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    #21535465 - 04/11/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Do you know what deist means?


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    #21536397 - 04/12/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Please show me the passage in either the declaration or Constitution that uses the phrase "separation of church and state".  God is all over both documents.  So far there have been no amendments to change that, unlike for slavery and prohibition of alcohol.





The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


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    #21536490 - 04/12/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Now he's going to disagree with the smartest constitutional lawyers on the planet and say that has nothing to do with a separation of church and state.


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    #21536503 - 04/12/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

You'd have to be pretty lawyorly to even conjur an argument against it lol.


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    #21536866 - 04/12/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Please show me the passage in either the declaration or Constitution that uses the phrase "separation of church and state".  God is all over both documents.  So far there have been no amendments to change that, unlike for slavery and prohibition of alcohol.





The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"




That is not what that says.

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    #21536890 - 04/12/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)


Doesn't Obamacare mandate a violation of many people's religious beliefs?  Hobby Lobby seems to say yes.  Where does this line get drawn?  The law is not as simple as the children think.


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    #21537024 - 04/12/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Doesn't Obamacare mandate a violation of many people's religious beliefs?  Hobby Lobby seems to say yes.



Since when are corporations religious?  Do corporations go to church?  :confused:


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    #21537828 - 04/12/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

They are owned by people


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21538030 - 04/12/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Well then, Hobby Lobby does NOT seem to say Obamacare violates religious beliefs.


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    #21538675 - 04/12/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Yes it does.


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    #21538690 - 04/12/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, but the first ammendment does say that verbatim. Do you just... say things?


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    #21538730 - 04/12/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

No, it doesn't


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    #21538761 - 04/12/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)



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    #21543170 - 04/13/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

What is that link supposed to show?


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    #21544490 - 04/13/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, I'm not going to hold your fucking hand. Read article 1. Top of the page. Oh, I guess I am.

While doing so, try not to plug your ears, close your eyes, and make that 'lalalala' sound you conservatives always seem to make when faced with facts.


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    #21548092 - 04/14/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Rape cases during the war by American soldiers has been going on since Vietnam war. During the Iraq war, there were some doctors had volunteered their time to join, but they doesn't do that here, take time to help others to perform their services for free. During the war, you can get away of doing lot of stuff, especially you can kill the victim after raping them; who would know the reason a soldier had killed the enemy for? It'll be their word against the enemy. It is the same here; like police officers joins the force on the account that they can get away with a lot of stuff that they can't get away with as a civilian. People believe that it is racism that they do these things, and which they believe that it is a noble act, the act of protecting their race, but actually that person is trying to covered up their true nature by pretending that they had done it to protect their race. Anyone that those evil, is evil; I doesn't care what race they are, but if they do something evil without any remorse, has a corrupted brain. And so the government send people to war that has a corrupted mind in order to get the job done, if not, the job, it will never get done because of the soldiers will be repenting, wanting to go back home.




Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #21561250 - 04/17/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

^ there is no law for respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall congress be allowed to make one.


meaning that they wanted to constitute religious freedom and the right to have that freedom. meaning you can hold religious ceremony, and it can deviate from the law using some sort of normative ethical standard. i mean, unless you're sacrificing children or in subterfuge with businesses or organizations which undermine the state, you have the right to whatever religious freedom you want. as long as you can keep it to yourself, you can jack off to God Amen-Ra-Dildo and with a banana up your ass, and you can call it Dildoism, and it'd be constitutionally supported.


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    #21561498 - 04/17/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

^ there is no law for respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall congress be allowed to make one.


meaning that they wanted to constitute religious freedom and the right to have that freedom. meaning you can hold religious ceremony, and it can deviate from the law using some sort of normative ethical standard. i mean, unless you're sacrificing children or in subterfuge with businesses or organizations which undermine the state, you have the right to whatever religious freedom you want. as long as you can keep it to yourself, you can jack off to God Amen-Ra-Dildo and with a banana up your ass, and you can call it Dildoism, and it'd be constitutionally supported.




Yes, it does entail all of that. Ontop of that, however, it means that the government shall make no law reflecting religious law.


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    #21565509 - 04/18/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

^ there is no law for respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall congress be allowed to make one.


meaning that they wanted to constitute religious freedom and the right to have that freedom. meaning you can hold religious ceremony, and it can deviate from the law using some sort of normative ethical standard. i mean, unless you're sacrificing children or in subterfuge with businesses or organizations which undermine the state, you have the right to whatever religious freedom you want. as long as you can keep it to yourself, you can jack off to God Amen-Ra-Dildo and with a banana up your ass, and you can call it Dildoism, and it'd be constitutionally supported.




Yes, no one should be made to do what is right, it should be a natural for them to do. In ancient text beside the Bible, had shown that people had slept with their parents and siblings and thought of it as being a natural thing to do; but we all know now what happens when we sleep with close relatives, the offspring will have a bad gene that will lead to all sorts of physical problems; one bad gene plus another equal two bad genes and so on. Lucky we were all told in our early years not to do that, or else we wouldn't be physically fit and or mentally able to find that out. But now all of the laws were removed, but God is only looking at the souls that has the desires to do what is right but unable to do it because they are so weak. The laws were made to show us from right and wrong, but now we know, and so there's no need for them; but now God look upon the heart to see what it really likes to do even though they aren't physically or mentally able. But now we are ruled under new laws that tell us what we are not to do, but some of the laws are futile, doesn't produces nothing but ignorance.

This is in replaced of the crucifix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration


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