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5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case
    #5838129 - 07/09/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four more U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fifth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman and the killings of her relatives in Mahmoudiya, the military said Sunday.

The five were accused Saturday following an investigation into allegations that American soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division raped the teenager and killed her and three relatives at her home south of Baghdad.

Ex-soldier Steven D. Green was arrested last week in North Carolina and has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder.

The U.S. statement said the five soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

One of the soldiers was charged with failing to report the attack but is not believed to have participated in it directly, the statement said.

The names of the four soldiers were not released.

The March 12 attack on the family was among the worst in a series of cases of U.S. troops accused of killing and abusing Iraqi civilians. U.S. officials are concerned that the alleged rape-slaying will strain relations with the new U.S.-backed government and increase calls for changes in the agreement that exempts American soldiers from prosecution in Iraqi courts.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has demanded an independent investigation into the case, which followed a series of allegations that U.S. troops killed and mistreated Iraqi civilians.

According to an FBI affidavit filed in Green’s case, Green and at least two others targeted the teenager and her family for a week before the attack, which was not revealed until witnesses came forward in late June.

The soldiers drank alcohol, abandoned their checkpoint, changed clothes to avoid detection and headed to the victims’ house, about 200 yards from a U.S. military checkpoint in the so-called “Triangle of Death,” a Sunni Arab area south of Baghdad known for its violence, the affidavit said.

The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals.

Green is accused of raping the woman and killing her and three relatives — an adult male and female and a girl estimated to be 5 years old. An official familiar with the investigation said he set fire to the rape victim’s body in an apparent cover-up attempt.

Iraqi authorities identified the rape victim as Abeer Qassim Hamza. The other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza; her mother, Fikhriya Taha; and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.




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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5838258 - 07/09/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What a bunch of animals


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5838833 - 07/09/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Bunch of fuck-ups, but they exist everywhere. I'm sure that in the past few weeks, a gang of blacks probably gang-raped a white female, but I guess that just doesn't fit into what the media bosses want us to hear. These soldiers should be fried.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5838995 - 07/09/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

"The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals."

that's terrible


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: David_vs_Goliath]
    #5839004 - 07/09/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times.

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: downforpot]
    #5839281 - 07/09/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

What about the "honor killings" of women in Iraq etc.? If a woman brings shame to the family through allegations of premarital or extramarital sex including forcible rape, by refusing an arranged marriage, or attempting to obtain a divorce, her male relatives are bound by duty and culture to murder her. And, it's legal in Iraq etc. and claims hundreds of lives a year.

That poor girl might have been murdered by her own father in just such an "honor killing" had the soldier raped her and left.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5839288 - 07/09/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, but if that happened, you know that the lefty media wouldn't be bringing it up to make the US look bad.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: downforpot]
    #5841082 - 07/10/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times.

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.




"13 year olds getting raped" wasn't "common during Biblical times". People back then may have had very young wives, but men going around raping any young female they wished is not an accurate historicity.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5841086 - 07/10/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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Bunch of fuck-ups, but they exist everywhere. I'm sure that in the past few weeks, a gang of blacks probably gang-raped a white female, but I guess that just doesn't fit into what the media bosses want us to hear. These soldiers should be fried.




Soldiers doing bad things are Iraq war related news, which tends to generate more public interest than some random criminal in the States.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
    #5841372 - 07/10/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

would i be considered a far left winger if i said those soldiers are innocent?
i wonder how they identified them presuming they killed all the witnesses?
didn't one of their own narc them out?
that means the enemy got to him then


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: quiver]
    #5842130 - 07/10/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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would i be considered a far left winger if i said those soldiers are innocent?





No, not at all.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5846989 - 07/11/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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That poor girl might have been murdered by her own father in just such an "honor killing" had the soldier raped her and left.




they didn't rape her and leave her though. they raped her and then murdered her whole family.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: daussaulit]
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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: s240779]
    #21482136 - 03/31/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Basilides]
    #21482628 - 03/31/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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downforpot said:
I honestly don't see why people bitch about girls under 18 getting raped. This shit is straight out the Bible. Even in the USA the Bible thumpers are freaking out like it's something new even though 13 year old girls getting raped was pretty common during Biblical times. 

Whether the girl is 14 or 25, it don't matter, it's still fucked up.




"13 year olds getting raped" wasn't "common during Biblical times". People back then may have had very young wives, but men going around raping any young female they wished is not an accurate historicity.




Lol what history books do you read?

God even commands rape in the bible, it was quite prevalent.


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21482653 - 03/31/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.  leave those soldiers in the stocks overnight in the victims village.  Let the people have their way with them.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_humiliation


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: sprinkles] * 1
    #21482672 - 03/31/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

yeah right, soldiers get coddled by the judicial system even more than police do.


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    #21528745 - 04/10/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I can't believe people are blaming the media for reporting soldiers raping little girls. What the fuck is wrong with you people?


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21529204 - 04/10/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

IN America we arrest them and try them and if the evidence supports it we convict them and fuck their shit up.  How do rape allegations go under sharia law?


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Re: 5 U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slay case [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21529330 - 04/10/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Things are handled differently in military courts than in public courts. If they were tried in Iraq, they would be brutally murdered. The girl probably would too. Theocracies always advocate murder. That's why church and state must be separate entities.

The Republican and Tea Parties have been working hard to merge the two, but America won't accept that.


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